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#88 of 178 Re: SUV reliability report [queequeg] by quattroporte12 Aug 11, 2006 (7:11 am)
Replying to: queequeg (Aug 11, 2006 7:00 am) Yes but you have to remember with the JD Power report all of those vehicles were from 2003, and some car makers (like audi) have "redone" their brands since then. Most of the "big grill" audis have much better quality and dependability. I think the GL would hold up fine, but the Range Rover's are known for falling apart. Replies to this message: british_rover (Aug 11, 2006 7:17 am) templeton3 (Aug 14, 2006 7:51 am)
#89 of 178 Re: SUV reliability report [quattroporte12] by british_rover Aug 11, 2006 (7:17 am)
Replying to: quattroporte12 (Aug 11, 2006 7:11 am) Another thing to think about on the JD Power's survey is that they do not weight the "problems" they report. A problem that strands a motorist on the side of the road is given the same weight as a check engine light that results from a loose gas cap or a bit of loose trim on the inside or outside of the vehicle.   JD Power also includes percivied design flaws in at least one of their studies and that does not have anything to do with reliablity. The don't even define what a percivied design flaw is. So a cup holder that someone thinks is too far away or too small or even too large are all problems that go into their report.   Land Rover has also completly reinventied their lineup since 2003. None of the vehicles that were around in 2003 exist today with the expeption of the Range Rover and it has an entirely new powertrain and navigation system. Replies to this message: templeton3 (Aug 14, 2006 7:51 am)
#90 of 178 gl450 vs upcoming hyundai vera cruz...? by gollam Aug 11, 2006 (8:48 am)
like i mentioned before, besides the nameplate/prestige...would ANYONE consider buying this thing over the gl450?..supposedly more cargo room, more interior room, better warranty than the mb?....   comments? Replies to this message: quattroporte12 (Aug 11, 2006 2:34 pm)
#91 of 178 Re: gl450 vs upcoming hyundai vera cruz...? [gollam] by quattroporte12 Aug 11, 2006 (2:34 pm)
Replying to: gollam (Aug 11, 2006 8:48 am) Well, the nameplate is VERY VERY VERY hard to overlook. Mercedes vs. Hyundai???? Everyone will pick MB. But...i GUESS if it was good looking, and had a very small hyundai name plate on it, it could be good. But regardless of the waranty (which i think it will need) and more room, i think the GL450 is a better car, you dont pay a premium for just the 3 pointed star emblem. The GL is worth the money. If you want something cheaper, look at a tahoe, or the upcoming GMC acadia/Buick Enclave. Mabie give hyundai a few years to gain a better reputation (which it is slowly doing).
#92 of 178 SUV reliability report [quattroporte12] by british_rover by mercara Aug 11, 2006 (6:13 pm)
Every year the survey comes out, people interpret it in a way to suit their biases. British Rover don't take this personally, but my question is how does Lexus remain on top? Do they make better cup-holders than MB? And does Landrover always reach the bottom of the pile every year due to bad cup holders?   We got to give some credit to these rankings from JD Power.
#93 of 178 Re: SUV reliability report [british_rover] by templeton3 Aug 14, 2006 (7:51 am)
Replying to: british_rover (Aug 11, 2006 7:17 am) Because of Mercedes poor quality and reputation, I would only pick a Mercedes if the price was right. A car like the R class (ugly) that they couldn't sell, they had to give the car away. Yes, we leased one, its a great car for the nanny.   On the other hand, the 05 Range Rover, I was able to get $3000 discount from sticker. After my experience with it for over a year, I would gladly pay full price for it. I was concerned about the reliability, but hearing from my friends about their experience I decided to go for it. My feelings was what could be worse than a Mercedes. I've had no problems with the Range Rover.   My R class has some problems here and there, tranmission is starting to have a jerk to it. Read the ML forum and find alot of unhappy owners. GL is made in the same plant. Its sad that Mercedes problems continues to linger.
#94 of 178 Need help deciding between Lexus GX470 & GL450 by buckaroo067 Aug 30, 2006 (1:05 pm)
I recognize the fact that these two cars are not the same class of vehicle yet my wife and I have reduced our choices of our new car to the GX470 from Lexus and the GL450 from Mercedes. We have leased 2 MLs in the past 6 years and have had no problems with either of them. This time around we wanted a third-row seat so after much debate we settled on these two. I have driven both extensively and am currently negotiating deals on both, but we can't decide!! Here are the things that are important to us: GL: More Power than GX More luxurious than GX Better handling than GX Power folding mirrors (not avail on GX) Integrated sattelite radio (only available as a separate unit on GX) Power folding third-row seat (goofy third-row in GX)   GX: Not as large as GL (12 inches shorter) Rear-seat entertainment (also available in GL but for more $$) Integrated Bluetooth (separate and expensive add-on on GL)   The difference in price is about $100/mo on a 3 year lease.   Should we get the Lexus and spend less money while still getting a nice vehicle ($1,000 over invoice), or should we go with the GL for only $100 more per month (selling below invoice - end of month deal)? Replies to this message: merc1 (Aug 30, 2006 1:43 pm) tmattstedt (Aug 30, 2006 2:01 pm) queequeg (Aug 30, 2006 4:27 pm) buckaroo067 (Aug 30, 2006 7:19 pm) and 2 more...
#95 of 178 Re: Need help deciding between Lexus GX470 & GL450 [buckaroo067] by merc1 Aug 30, 2006 (1:43 pm)
Replying to: buckaroo067 (Aug 30, 2006 1:05 pm) In just looking at your list it is clear as to which truck you find superior and IMO you get what you pay for.   M
#96 of 178 Re: Need help deciding between Lexus GX470 & GL450 [buckaroo067] by tmattstedt Aug 30, 2006 (2:01 pm)
Replying to: buckaroo067 (Aug 30, 2006 1:05 pm) We went through the same exercise (a few messages back I wrote down my conclusions) - I actually think the GX looks pretty ugly - more like a delivery van from the back and it is at the end of the day a souped-up Toyota Land Cruiser.   I got my GL last Sunday, love it, it actually ended up quite a bit cheaper than the Lexus - maybe you have to kick your dealer a bit harder (paid $63K incl. Premium/Leather/Sunroof/Keyless/Woodwheel/3-zone (do not skip this feature)/I-pod - List was $68K).   Reading through your list you already made up your mind - go for the GL, you will not regret it Replies to this message: queequeg (Aug 30, 2006 4:27 pm) buckaroo067 (Aug 30, 2006 7:19 pm) tmattstedt (Aug 31, 2006 8:00 am) and 1 more...
#97 of 178 Re: Need help deciding between Lexus GX470 & GL450 [tmattstedt] by queequeg Aug 30, 2006 (4:27 pm)
Replying to: tmattstedt (Aug 30, 2006 2:01 pm) Comparison-tested and test-drove both Lexus GX and Mercedes GL (among others) and hands down, the Mercedes was superior. The smooth/slick powered 3rd seats sealed the decision. Had mine for over a month now and love it. Saw the most current JDPower SUV review had no (repeat NO) quality/reliability complaints about the Mercedes GL470 and found it superior to many of the supposedly great competitors. Don't know about other Mercedes models, but I have no regrets about this one. Replies to this message: buckaroo067 (Aug 30, 2006 7:19 pm) tmattstedt (Aug 31, 2006 8:00 am) queequeg (Aug 31, 2006 8:15 am)

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