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Re: mb gl320 cdi... [gollam]
by tmattstedt
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Aug 10, 2006 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: gollam (Aug 10, 2006 2:14 pm)
More than 50% of cars in Europe have a Diesel Engine - have the consumption of fuel/diesel and equally as clean & reliable. Reason they are not available here is that the US Diesel is not filtered and thus has sulphites which are poluting the air. The oil companies are not interested in cleaning as it would reduce the overall consumption of oil and eat into their profits.
As a results, all these great engines that are available in Europe (think GL420 CDI - 310hp and double the torque of the GL450, dito the 10cylinder VW Touareg) are not available.
But to come back to your question - no maintenance issues or increased costs
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Re: mb gl320 cdi... [tmattstedt]
by british_rover
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Aug 10, 2006 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: tmattstedt (Aug 10, 2006 2:21 pm)
Err diesels do cost more to maintain then their gas counterpart. The differance is that the diesel motor will last three times as long and is twice as efficient so it balances out.
A typical diesel engine in a truck might hold 14 quarts or more of oil. The gas motor that goes in that truck will probably only hold 6-9 quarts. Preventative maintance is slightly higher but generaly service intervals are longer and the whole engine will just last longer so again it balances it out.
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Re: mb gl320 cdi... [tmattstedt]
by gollam
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Aug 10, 2006 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: tmattstedt (Aug 10, 2006 2:21 pm)
thanks for the replies....but i thought the gl320 cdi IS coming to america?..summer of 2007?....anyone?
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Re: mb gl320 cdi... [gollam]
by quattroporte12
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Aug 10, 2006 (9:42 pm)
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Replying to: gollam (Aug 10, 2006 9:05 pm)
Yes, it is. Why else would edmunds.com have a test on it. in fact, many new dieslels are making their way to the US in the near future. An Audi Q7 V10 Turbodiesel, and possibly a diesel engine in the new bmw x5. All sound very interesting...especially the v10!!
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mb reliability?>.
by gollam
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Aug 11, 2006 (6:30 am)
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anyone concerned with mb reliability these days..?..initial quality studies?...j.d power associates study?....mb ranks quite low?....
comments?
besides the nameplate/prestige..would anyone consider buying the upcoming hyundai veracruz over the gl450?..costs much less, more cargo room, same/more leg room, better warranty than the gl450?...or am i dreaming?
anyone?
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Re: SUV reliability report
by queequeg
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Aug 11, 2006 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: gollam (Aug 11, 2006 6:30 am)
Had some concerns re MB, but they were allayed by (a) the absolutely and consistently horrible experiences I've had with all US domestic vehicles for over 40 years, (b) the MB warrantee and extended service contract, etc., and (c) the newest JD Power report of just last week slamming RangeRover and Saab(?) or Audi? and a bunch of (to me) surprising big SUVs as quality-deficient... and Mercedes Benz was conspicuously absent from the list of bad ones. I celebrated at NOT seeing mine panned. For the moment, at least....
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Re: SUV reliability report [queequeg]
by quattroporte12
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Aug 11, 2006 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: queequeg (Aug 11, 2006 7:00 am)
Yes but you have to remember with the JD Power report all of those vehicles were from 2003, and some car makers (like audi) have "redone" their brands since then. Most of the "big grill" audis have much better quality and dependability. I think the GL would hold up fine, but the Range Rover's are known for falling apart.
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Re: SUV reliability report [quattroporte12]
by british_rover
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Aug 11, 2006 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: quattroporte12 (Aug 11, 2006 7:11 am)
Another thing to think about on the JD Power's survey is that they do not weight the "problems" they report. A problem that strands a motorist on the side of the road is given the same weight as a check engine light that results from a loose gas cap or a bit of loose trim on the inside or outside of the vehicle.
JD Power also includes percivied design flaws in at least one of their studies and that does not have anything to do with reliablity. The don't even define what a percivied design flaw is. So a cup holder that someone thinks is too far away or too small or even too large are all problems that go into their report.
Land Rover has also completly reinventied their lineup since 2003. None of the vehicles that were around in 2003 exist today with the expeption of the Range Rover and it has an entirely new powertrain and navigation system.
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gl450 vs upcoming hyundai vera cruz...?
by gollam
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Aug 11, 2006 (8:48 am)
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like i mentioned before, besides the nameplate/prestige...would ANYONE consider buying this thing over the gl450?..supposedly more cargo room, more interior room, better warranty than the mb?....
comments?
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Re: gl450 vs upcoming hyundai vera cruz...? [gollam]
by quattroporte12
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Aug 11, 2006 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: gollam (Aug 11, 2006 8:48 am)
Well, the nameplate is VERY VERY VERY hard to overlook. Mercedes vs. Hyundai???? Everyone will pick MB. But...i GUESS if it was good looking, and had a very small hyundai name plate on it, it could be good. But regardless of the waranty (which i think it will need) and more room, i think the GL450 is a better car, you dont pay a premium for just the 3 pointed star emblem. The GL is worth the money. If you want something cheaper, look at a tahoe, or the upcoming GMC acadia/Buick Enclave. Mabie give hyundai a few years to gain a better reputation (which it is slowly doing).
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