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Lexus IS 250 / IS 350 Lease Questions

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Re: Assuming a 2008 IS 250 Is this a good deal? [ljsurfbabe] by igozoomzoom
Apr 27, 2009 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: ljsurfbabe (Apr 27, 2009 11:42 am)

Let me make sure that I understand-
 
The car is on a 48-month lease and has about 36-months remaining. You want to assume the lease payments of $450 per month and won't have to pay anything down, correct?
 
How many miles are on it now and what is the annual mileage limit in the lease agreement (usually 10k, 12k or 15k per year)?
 
Also, what is the residual value at the end of the lease (stated in the lease agreement)? And do you know what the money factor (aka- Interest Rate) is?
 
You NEED to know all of those things to evaluate whether it's a good deal or not!
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Re: April MF and residual on IS 250 RWD [eburns] by Car_man HOST
Apr 28, 2009 (2:16 am)
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Replying to: eburns (Apr 06, 2009 5:32 am)

You're very welcome, eburns.
 
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Re: April MF and residual on IS 250 RWD [hockeymom1712] by Car_man HOST
Apr 28, 2009 (2:24 am)
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Replying to: hockeymom1712 (Apr 15, 2009 2:00 pm)

Here you go, hockeymom1712. Lexus Financial Services' April buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 IS 250 RWD with an automatic transmission and 15,000 miles per year in your area are .00125 and 50%, respectively. The residual value for a lease with only 12,000 miles per year is 2% higher.
 
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Re: lease is350 [ach8888] by Car_man HOST
Apr 28, 2009 (2:30 am)
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Replying to: ach8888 (Apr 18, 2009 6:59 pm)

Hi ach8888. It sounds like you are new to leasing. If so, you really should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment. Understanding how leasing works is the best way to avoid getting ripped off when you get your new vehicle.
 
I would be happy to work up a sample lease payment on the IS that you are interested in for you if you let me know what its approximate selling price is.
 
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IS 250 Lease Good? by mmarketos
Apr 28, 2009 (1:07 pm)
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Hey Folks,
Many thanks for all the info on the site. Negotiating with Park Place Lexus here in Dallas. Looking at at 2009 IS 250 with Premium Pkg (SL Z1) for $1,000 down and $439 per month all in. I think this is a pretty good deal, but wanted to confirm before I went down and picked it up. Thanks for all the great info!
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Brand new to the forum here by valuehunter07
Apr 29, 2009 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: mmarketos (Apr 28, 2009 1:07 pm)

Hi everyone.
 
First I want to say thank you to everyone posting here! As I've been reading this forum since yesterday, I've really been learning a lot.
 
I am new to the whole "leasing" thing, but am now considering it. Reason being is that my Pontiac Grand Prix needs transmission work, at only 100,000 miles. So what I'd like to do is trade it in.
 
Which brings me to my question - can any of you give me feedback on what I might expect, as to a trade in?
 
The bluebook trade-in value of my Grand Prix is $2,550. The car probably needs about $1500-$2000 worth of transmission work.
 
I'm hoping that they will offer me $2,000 for the car, since they can probably repair the car, or get it repaired, a lot cheaper, with all of their resources.
 
In addition to this, I have a payoff of about $6000 left on my Grand Prix. I have NO idea how this will affect the lease deal I might get.
 
I mean, of course I want to add this amount to the lease, and I wouldn't mind paying a few thousand of it up front, but just wondering if any of you might have some advice or feedback, or might just tell me what to expect.
 
Thanks very much
 
Oh yeah, and "greeneyes", may I ask what the name of your salesperson is? You can PM me if you'd rather. I work in Santa Monica, and that's the dealer I'd like to deal with, and it sounds like you got the maximum deal that could be hoped for so far.
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Re: Brand new to the forum here [valuehunter07] by greeneyespsu
Apr 29, 2009 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: valuehunter07 (Apr 29, 2009 7:35 am)

Hey valuehunter,
 
I actually got my IS250 through Vista Lexus in Woodland Hills. I would have gone with Santa Monica, but they didn't have the color I wanted and would only deal on what they had in stock. Also, they couldn't seem to make the number match the quote I had been given the first time. Vista dealer traded for my car from Oxnard. I didn't get the car for the price I thought, but it was still a good deal. I probably could have gotten another couple hundred off (maybe) or free maintenance or something had I kept pushing, but I was so exhausted by that point, my sister was in town, my other car had died (and I towed it across the street where they couldn't see and I drove it over -- so how would I have actually left or pretended to leave and see if they went lower?).. I think I had pushed my limits and I'm pretty happy. Below is what I paid..
 
MSRP $37,656 (IS250 RWD, Nav, Prem, 18" summers)
Selling price $32,448 (under invoice, with no rebates/incentives at the time)
36mo/12k (53% residual)
MF lowered to .0006 (.114%) with 9 MSD (now I wonder, could I have made it .0000 with 10??)
Down $4680 (I think) -- $3825 of that was the MSD -- no cap reduction.
Got $1000 from trade -- '98 Chevy Cavalier with 122k+, fair condition (I thought this was fair considering it had scratches, some rust underneath, broken A/C, cracked head gasket causing overheating, though I'm pretty sure they only knew about the scratches)
35 months at $411.xx, but now increased to $415.xx because of tax increase.
 
As far as your trade, don't tell them you have one until after you get your selling price on the IS set. Don't tell them what's wrong with it, it'll just give them an excuse to give you less. They aren't going to fix your car, they're going to send it to auction. I didn't owe any money on my trade, but it's my understanding that they will roll up what you owe into your lease (so expect an extra $167 per month from that -- based on $6000 owed) and it wouldn't surprise me if a dealer tries to add other fees in on the back end and attributes them to what you owe on your trade. I would doubt that you'd get $2000 for your trade, maybe shoot for $1500, start at $2000. If you think you can feasibly get higher than that, start at KBB.
 
Don't forget, I think this month's residual is 2% lower than last month, right? I thought I saw that in another post, but I could be wrong. Also, if you have a Costco card you should go to www.costcoauto.com and submit a request through there. That will take you directly to the SM people I dealt with and also the dealer at Vista I purchased from. The Costco price is $750 over invoice for the IS and you can do better than that, but it's a good starting point (instead of at sticker).. also by going the Costco route, the dealer has to show you the invoice price of the car.
 
If you have any other question, email me, my email is in my profile.
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Re: IS 250 Lease Good? [mmarketos] by kingpcgeek
Apr 29, 2009 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: mmarketos (Apr 28, 2009 1:07 pm)

Way too few details to tell you if you are getting a good deal. When buying or leasing a car you negotiate the selling price, not the payment.
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Residual Value by valuehunter07
Apr 29, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: kingpcgeek (Apr 29, 2009 4:19 pm)

This question is for anyone, and it's a beginner's question....
 
I can't get my head around the residual value thing. From what I've read, the higher the residual value, the lower your payment.
 
This seems like a good thing....
 
but then, if there's a higher residual, then that also means if you want to buy the car (to keep or resell it), then you're gonna be spending MORE to do that.
 
So am I correct to assume that a higher residual is good if you only want to lease and not keep?
 
thanks very much
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One more question by valuehunter07
Apr 29, 2009 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: valuehunter07 (Apr 29, 2009 5:10 pm)

I'm looking at both the IS 250, and also the Acura TSX.
 
From going through both forums, it seems the better deals for the IS are around $415 a month (12K), while the TSX deals are around $345 (15K).
 
Also, on the deal listed by Greeneyes, there was around $1500 in upfront fees, and also another $3200 for a deposit.
 
With the TSX deal, there was no money down.
 
I'm just trying to gauge the difference in cost, and wondering if I'm understanding and assuming correctly?
 
thanks

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