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Re: Is this a good deal?? [greeneyespsu] by adamly
Mar 18, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: greeneyespsu (Mar 17, 2009 10:19 pm)

haha I love hearing dealerships get pitted against one another. Let me know how Keyes responds.
 
The only thing about your deal that I caught my eye were your MSDs. I've never dealt with them myself, but I can just see the gleam in their eyes when you return the car after 3 yrs and 3,400 is up for grabs. What was your MF at before the deposits?
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Re: Is this a good deal?? [adamly] by greeneyespsu
Mar 18, 2009 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: adamly (Mar 18, 2009 7:10 am)

I believe the MF is at a special rate of .0007 right now. I have 729 on my Experian so I qualify for that rate, even though Keyes lied and said I didn't because I'm a first time buyer. Weird though cause with 8 MSD Visa said my MF is .00014 and Santa Monica said it's .0001. .0001 is the lowest you can get. .24% interest, ridiculous! Even if you're not interested in leasing and only interested in financing, it makes sense to lease THEN buy with a MF that low, considering all the interest you'd save on that first ~$12,000 and lower payments, then you can finance the buyout, cause let's face it.. Lexus finance APR's are not a deal at all. The only reasonable one is on the RX, the lowest you can qualify for right now is 2.9%. Keyes said the lowest you can get right now on IS is around 6.9%, though I'm sure that's a total lie. Regardless, it's nowhere NEAR .24%!!
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Re: Is this a good deal?? [greeneyespsu] by cpa3
Mar 20, 2009 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: greeneyespsu (Mar 18, 2009 9:25 am)

Greeneyespsu
 
My comment about your numbers was I found it hard to believe they would sell you that car out the door for $32,800 which was fully loaded include chrome wheels and two years of free maintenance. Those chrome wheels usually add about $2K to the price. Your new deal is nowhere near that. Nor was mine. My .0007 cap rate was with no MSD.
 
The deal you had listed is a good one. Its a few dollars better than mine. I was at $32612. I would be happy with that deal and take it. I couldn't get Mission Viejo or Newport anywhere near that. We had to go to Longo to get our deal. The only thing I might consider is the MSD. Basically it comes down to do you want to lend Lexus $3200 for 1.44% a year (1.68 my rate vs. .24 your rate). I would pass on that although not many investments today you can get that return on. Another question I have on the MSD is under what terms can they tap into the MSD? What if you total the car after you drive it off the lot? Can they use it to fill the gap between the loan and your insurance? I assume if you default on the lease they can take it. Good luck and I think you have done enough homework to buy. Be sure to post your final deal.
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Re: Is this a good deal?? [cpa3] by greeneyespsu
Mar 20, 2009 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: cpa3 (Mar 20, 2009 6:38 pm)

cpa3,
 
I never said $32,800 OTD in my previous post. It was pre-TTL. Trust me, if it was $32,800 OTD I would have taken it and ran well before I posted here.
 
For me, Longo won't go near the price I got of $32548. They're still $33k+. Although they don't have the color I want (supposedly) anyway so they're not really trying to deal. Keyes says they'll beat the price by $500.. so $32048, but of course they don't have the same car.. they're getting one in but it has HID too so they said they'd sell the one with HID for $32798 (funny how now they're basically back to the same price they gave me before). With 8 MSD with them, MF goes down to .00006. Don't know how that's possible since it was .0001 with SM.
 
MSD is returned at lease end. They could take damages out of it, but it would be charged just like if you didn't put money down and then you'd owe them. And Lexus leases include GAP insurance so even if MSD would play a factor like money down, it shouldn't matter anyway. Or at least I think.
 
Still searching for Smoky Mica on Black. Keyes and SM have Matador Red on Black with HIDs.. Vista and SM have Starfire Pearl on Black, no HID. We'll see..
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Re: Is this a good deal?? [greeneyespsu] by cpa3
Mar 20, 2009 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: greeneyespsu (Mar 20, 2009 6:55 pm)

greeneyespsu
 
Sorry I meant $32,800 without TTL not with TTL. In other words that deal is unbelievable. What do chrome wheels costs? The free maintenance is probably worth at least $300-$500 to you. I dont see why they would sell at that price. Your 32,568 is a lot higher when you factor the 32800 includes chrome wheels (at leaast $1200cost) plus free maintenance...A comprable deal without those would be have to be at least around $31K
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Re: Is this a good deal?? [cpa3] by greeneyespsu
Mar 20, 2009 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: cpa3 (Mar 20, 2009 7:35 pm)

Basically they would have been selling the car for $32,800 (same price they offered for the car WITHOUT chromes) and charging whatever on the backend to make up for the chrome. That's how Keyes works. They're shady, I don't trust them and I'd never recommend them to anyone. Literally every dealer I went to said they hear bad things about Keyes constantly (and I believe it). All of the other dealers I have gone to have been incredibly friendly, especially Vista. Keyes puts chrome and spoilers on EVERY car they get in. The only way you can get one without those things there is to find one that will be coming into their inventory, but not yet arrived. Honestly, to ever feel "comfortable" about signing anything with Keyes I'd want to have a lawyer present. They wanted me to sign before they got the car in the other day or put a deposit.. saying that without that they can't guarantee that with the other 23 salesmen that the car won't get taken to get chromes, etc. I said if they want to sell me the car so bad (which obviously they do since they literally ran after me when I left the dealership after turning down their offer) they would make sure that that doesn't happen. And even if they did get me a deal there (aka beating other prices) I am sure they would try to screw me on lease return. I just don't trust them. I would recommend anyone in SoCal stay far far away from Keyes Lexus. Vista and Santa Monica are both great.
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by anonymousposts
Mar 22, 2009 (6:20 am)
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I have found a leftover 08 is250. They are offering the car at 31,900 with nav, x package, and prem package and a manual tran. The dealer is in Mass. What are the current money factor and residual for 36 and 48 months? 12k per year.
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Here's the deal by anonymousposts
Mar 23, 2009 (3:03 pm)
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2008 Lexus IS250 6-speed manual. Every option except an automatic and the Mark Levinson. It has NAV, HIDs, premium package, and the X-package. Here is what they are offering.
 
MSRP: $38,800
Cap Cost: $30,076
Residual: $19,190
Term: 36 months
Payment: $500 including taxes with $500 due at signing,
 
Any opinions?
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Re: 399/Mo. Lease [Car_man] by jason7863
Mar 24, 2009 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Mar 16, 2009 3:07 am)

Hi All,
 
I got an offer at Bay area as below
 
IS250 with Nav. sticker price $37656
48month lease(10kmil/year, my credit score is 745),
residue price: $16569
downpay: $3500
monthly pay:$340 (including tax)
 
Is this a good deal? Anything important I should ask the dealer?

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