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#1 of 41 Adding Factory Fog lights to a Ford Escape by keithg1

Dec 05, 2005 (12:03 pm)

We have a 2006 Ford Escape that did not come with fog lights. The vehicle appears to have all of the wiring necessary to just plug into the factory components, ie. Switch, relay and lights. After installing the Ford factory lights, switch and relay, the lights still do not come on. I know they only work when the headlights are on, so we do have the headlights on when trying to turn on the fog lights. Does anyone know if we are still missing something. The local ford dealer says we have everything needed. I can jump the relay and the fog lights come on. The problem appears to be between the switch and the relay. Thanks.

#2 of 41 Re: Adding Factory Fog lights to a Ford Escape [keithg1] by tidester

Dec 05, 2005 (1:16 pm)

Replying to: keithg1 (Dec 05, 2005 12:03 pm)
You may also want to try Fog Lights or Ford Escape.
 
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#3 of 41 Re: Adding Factory Fog lights to a Ford Escape [keithg1] by escapenut

Dec 09, 2005 (12:53 pm)

Replying to: keithg1 (Dec 05, 2005 12:03 pm)
Fwiw, my '01 Escape XLT has fog-lights, however the circuitry is set-up so that they do not operate unless the headlamps are on. This is way it was wired from the factory. Not sure if the Ford engineers changed anything
from '01 to '06 for lighting overrides or not. I know in other vehicles the fog-lamps can operate separately from
the headlamps. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me why Ford set it up this way. I'm not complaining too much, it's been a pretty vehicle so far even w/o this amenity.

#4 of 41 Re: Adding Factory Fog lights to a Ford Escape [escapenut] by bimpy46307

Dec 12, 2005 (1:07 pm)

Replying to: escapenut (Dec 09, 2005 12:53 pm)
Hello,
 
I'm no mechanic but I do sell Fords so just so you know the fogs only work when the headlights are on and set on dim. Ford sets it up that way so people aren't driving around with just their fog lights on, (You don't want that ticket) and so you don't blind people with your brights and fogs on at the same time.
 
Thanks
Jim

#5 of 41 Re: Adding Factory Fog lights to a Ford Escape [keithg1] by richardlcooper

Jan 21, 2006 (9:44 am)

Replying to: keithg1 (Dec 05, 2005 12:03 pm)
Keith, did you ever resolve this issue? I am having the exact same problem... Thanks.

#6 of 41 Re: Adding Factory Fog lights to a Ford Escape [keithg1] by ewilkerson

Jan 29, 2006 (1:26 pm)

Replying to: keithg1 (Dec 05, 2005 12:03 pm)
I too am having the same problem with a 2006 Mazda Tribute. I removed the cover where the fog light power switch would have been installed and I discovered what appears to be a switch that is missing/needs the push button??? I'm thinking that I may need to order the push button from the dealership. Knowing the dealership prices the button will cost me more than the fog lights. LOL!

#7 of 41 Re: Adding Factory Fog lights to a Ford Escape [keithg1] by richardlcooper

Jan 29, 2006 (2:51 pm)

Replying to: keithg1 (Dec 05, 2005 12:03 pm)
After obtaining the wiring diagram, it appears that the "Programmable Junction Box" (PJB) need to be programmed by FORD for the fog lights to work. Everything else is installed but the lights do not work. For these kinds of reasons, this is probably the last time I will purchase a Ford...

#8 of 41 Re: Adding Factory Fog lights to a Ford Escape [ewilkerson] by ewilkerson

May 18, 2006 (11:43 am)

Replying to: ewilkerson (Jan 29, 2006 1:26 pm)
I took my Tribute in to be serviced and told about my fog light problem. I also mentioned that they probably didn't work because the PJB needed to be programmed. They told that there was no such thing and that all I needed was the on/off (toggle) switch. I ordered the switch it was about 17 dollars no big deal. I installed the switch...fog lights still do not work. I took the truck back in and a week later I got my truck back. They had to order some additional part that was on back order. I'm sorry but I forgot to look at the invoice for the part number. I'll update this post with the part number at a later time. The only reason I didn't get upset was because the part was covered under warranty and my dealer supplied me with a loaner vehicle free of charge...maybe not free because I'm pretty sure that I over paid on the extended coverage that I purchased with my new vehicle.

#9 of 41 Re: Adding Factory Fog lights to a Ford Escape [ewilkerson] by stormcoder

May 22, 2006 (9:38 pm)

Replying to: ewilkerson (May 18, 2006 11:43 am)
I recently bought a new 2006 Mazda Tribute i model, and I am just curious about the fog light switch that you bought for your Tribute and additional part(s) for fog lights installation.
 
It would be a great help for me in the future if I or anyone else decided to install the fog lights by oneself.

#10 of 41 Re: Adding Factory Fog lights to a Ford Escape [keithg1] by fredm3

Jul 13, 2006 (9:13 am)

Replying to: keithg1 (Dec 05, 2005 12:03 pm)
I have just ordered a 2007 XLS Escape and had the same idea you did. After reading your post I contacted Dale Jarrett Ford and inquired about this procedure. Mechanically it appears to be straight forward. The problem is that DOT requires that the fog lamps not be operational when the high beams are on so that requires the signal to be controlled by the body control module. Each model of the Escape, the XLS, XLT and Limited has a different software load. Apparantly one of the mechanics at Dale Jarrett tried to do this very upgrade to his daughter's XLS and when he reprogrammed the fog lamps to come on he messed up the turn signals and several other things. It took him a couple of weeks to get the car back to it's original condition. They had also attempted to add fog lamps to a Mustang GT and ran into the same problem.
  
The problem is not insurmountable but it is not quite as clean as just plugging the components in. The solution is to simply run new wires from the switch to the relay. Heh, for us purists it's not the best solution but it works. Good luck.

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