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#3553 of 11674 Re: Well here's my OPINION of the greatest new car ever built to date !!!!!!! [rockylee] by gogogodzilla Apr 19, 2006 (9:43 am)
Replying to: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 12:57 am) Out of Volvo's... ... I like the S60 and S40 (in that order). Although, having test-driven the S40, the side-mirrors are kinda small.
#3554 of 11674 RE:3800 [torque_r] by 62vetteefp Apr 19, 2006 (11:26 am)
Replying to: torque_r (Apr 17, 2006 7:15 am) If the 3.6 is upgraded in the LaCrosse it will be 265hp. NO sure where the 250 hp would come from. Replies to this message: sls002 (Apr 19, 2006 1:50 pm) 62vetteefp (Apr 19, 2006 3:49 pm)
#3555 of 11674 Re: Cobalt or Tibby? Easy choice there. [dieselone] by 62vetteefp Apr 19, 2006 (12:29 pm)
Replying to: dieselone (Apr 18, 2006 12:59 pm) JD Powers is a scientific, math based study based on sound principles. It is unbiased. Any posters who say other wise are wrong. Who do you think these posters would be? Replies to this message: dieselone (Apr 19, 2006 1:05 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:16 pm) m1miata (Apr 19, 2006 1:44 pm) and 1 more... logic1 (Apr 19, 2006 6:08 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 6:14 pm) logic1 (Apr 19, 2006 6:24 pm)
#3556 of 11674 About Volvos by lweiss Apr 19, 2006 (12:55 pm)
I have a 1998 Volvo S-70 (107K) and my sister has a 2000 Volvo S-80 (90K), first and last Volvos for both of us for the same reasons- high maintenance costs and many "nuisance" problems, especially electrical stuff (how long have they been building cars?). They ride beautifully, nice features, long lasting, great seats, safe- but pricey also. That's why I am looking at a mid-size GM/Ford Fusion/Asian brands to replace it. Volvos used to have a corner on safety and a nice image, but the Asians especially have caught up bigtime Replies to this message: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 12:59 pm)
#3557 of 11674 Re: About Volvos [lweiss] by rockylee Apr 19, 2006 (12:59 pm)
Replying to: lweiss (Apr 19, 2006 12:55 pm) The Europeans are still safer, and I'll put up the new S80 against any asian you can name when it comes to safety features. Do a comparison for yourself and you will still see a big gap between the cars you just mentioned. The fusion got a poor ration during it's crash test, so you can see uncle Bill didn't apply any Volvo safety techniques to that POS. Rocky
#3558 of 11674 Re: Cobalt or Tibby? Easy choice there. [62vetteefp] by dieselone Apr 19, 2006 (1:05 pm)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Apr 19, 2006 12:29 pm) JD Powers is a scientific, math based study based on sound principles. It is unbiased. Any posters who say other wise are wrong. Who do you think these posters would be? Oh I don't know, no need for me to do any finger pointing, they'll post something eventually regarding the fact they'd push a Cobalt before they'd be seen in a Hyundai. LOL Which based on CU and JD Powers info might be reality. Replies to this message: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:16 pm) m1miata (Apr 19, 2006 1:44 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:52 pm)
#3559 of 11674 Re: Cobalt or Tibby? Easy choice there. [dieselone] by rockylee Apr 19, 2006 (1:16 pm)
Replying to: dieselone (Apr 19, 2006 1:05 pm) Oh I don't know, no need for me to do any finger pointing, they'll post something eventually regarding the fact they'd push a Cobalt before they'd be seen in a Hyundai. LOL Well you already know I'm in that crowd. Rocky Replies to this message: m1miata (Apr 19, 2006 1:44 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:52 pm)
#3560 of 11674 Re: Well here's my OPINION of the greatest new car ever built to date !!!!! by m1miata Apr 19, 2006 (1:35 pm)
Replying to: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 12:57 am) Hey Rocky, that Volvo S80 looks pretty neat. I would just buy the Hyundai Sonata V6, same HP as the Volvo V6, and save the money for gas. Oh yeah, less insurance cost, fewer trips to get things fixed, and a long-long warranty. Looks like a new Altima adds to the list of other cars for GM to worry about. The Volvo s40 is kinda interesting, but I would just buy the Mazda3 and pocket the difference for gas, and a burger along the way. Volvos are know for expensive parts, and some for less than stellar reliability. I realize you don't read the Consumer Reports, and JD Powers. The MSN Auto site has reliability section too, for those used cars. They actually have the most common repairs needed and the cost of such a repair. Very interesting. I do kinda like those s40's. Sort of odd styling, but it is at least different, as in someone made a effort to break out of the common design of the jelly bean. -Loren Replies to this message: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:45 pm) jvpr (Apr 21, 2006 5:58 pm) rockylee (Apr 22, 2006 5:35 pm) and 1 more...
#3561 of 11674 Re: Cobalt or Tibby? Easy choice there. [rockylee] by m1miata Apr 19, 2006 (1:44 pm)
Replying to: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:16 pm) New exercise program for America. The GM weight loss made simple, while providing energy savings, as in zero fuel consumption car is here. Announcing the YouPushIt Cobalt. Rocky, is going to buy the first one. As a side note, OnStar works well for calling in the tow truck. If the tow truck breaks down, call for a Toyota truck, and they will tow both of you. -Loren Replies to this message: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:52 pm)
#3562 of 11674 Re: Well here's my OPINION of the greatest new car ever built to date !!!!! [m1miata] by rockylee Apr 19, 2006 (1:45 pm)
Replying to: m1miata (Apr 19, 2006 1:35 pm) If I didn't buy a American Made GM car, it would probably be a Scandinavian Made Volvo or Saab. I guess the safety features, and reputation is so attractive to me. I suppose when you have kids, the thought of safety sticks in your mind. I also love the execution of the S80's interior and it looks like a place I could spend all day long in and still feel refreshed. I've never driven or rode in a Volvo, but everyone that own's one talks about seat comfort. I also like that both Volvo and Saab take neck injury's very seriously with designing the seats to protect your neck fron snapping like a pretzel. BMW also does this very well, and I don't want to leave them out of getting credit. I like the Volvo S60R, but it's not near as contemporary as the S80. The S80 makes me want to climb in, start it up, and turn the 12 speaker DYNAUDIO system to ear drum shattering levels, and head for the nearest mountain or canyon road. Rocky Replies to this message: jvpr (Apr 21, 2006 5:58 pm) rockylee (Apr 22, 2006 5:35 pm) driver100 (Apr 23, 2006 4:49 am)