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#3551 of 11674 Re: GM woes [rockylee] by w9cw Apr 19, 2006 (7:43 am)
Replying to: rockylee (Apr 18, 2006 11:11 pm) I driven SAABs for a long time. My first was in the late '60s and still have two mid-80s Classic 900 models in the family. SAABs are problematic, if and only if, you don't follow the maintenance schedule. Both SAABs and Volvos can be very problematic if they're not maintained properly, and many aren't. Both of our Classic 900s are still going strong with only routine maintenace, and both have over 150K without any engine or transmission problems. I no nothing of the newer generation SAABs built on the Global Platforms, but the older "real SAABs" were reliable brutes when maintained properly. Let's face it, the 9-2X and the 9-7X aren't real SAABs and they never will be.
#3552 of 11674 Re: GM woes [logic1] by carlisimo Apr 19, 2006 (7:55 am)
Replying to: logic1 (Apr 19, 2006 6:10 am) Yeah I think it's on the Lotus platform, but it never got the Celica GT-S engine. Once Lotus upgraded from the old 110hp engine to the Celica's, Opel/Vauxhall released a turbo version. The Sky's a porker in comparison, but it's taken the styling pretty darn close to perfection.
#3553 of 11674 Re: Well here's my OPINION of the greatest new car ever built to date !!!!!!! [rockylee] by gogogodzilla Apr 19, 2006 (9:43 am)
Replying to: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 12:57 am) Out of Volvo's... ... I like the S60 and S40 (in that order). Although, having test-driven the S40, the side-mirrors are kinda small.
#3554 of 11674 RE:3800 [torque_r] by 62vetteefp Apr 19, 2006 (11:26 am)
Replying to: torque_r (Apr 17, 2006 7:15 am) If the 3.6 is upgraded in the LaCrosse it will be 265hp. NO sure where the 250 hp would come from. Replies to this message: sls002 (Apr 19, 2006 1:50 pm) 62vetteefp (Apr 19, 2006 3:49 pm)
#3555 of 11674 Re: Cobalt or Tibby? Easy choice there. [dieselone] by 62vetteefp Apr 19, 2006 (12:29 pm)
Replying to: dieselone (Apr 18, 2006 12:59 pm) JD Powers is a scientific, math based study based on sound principles. It is unbiased. Any posters who say other wise are wrong. Who do you think these posters would be? Replies to this message: dieselone (Apr 19, 2006 1:05 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:16 pm) m1miata (Apr 19, 2006 1:44 pm) and 1 more... logic1 (Apr 19, 2006 6:08 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 6:14 pm) logic1 (Apr 19, 2006 6:24 pm)
#3556 of 11674 About Volvos by lweiss Apr 19, 2006 (12:55 pm)
I have a 1998 Volvo S-70 (107K) and my sister has a 2000 Volvo S-80 (90K), first and last Volvos for both of us for the same reasons- high maintenance costs and many "nuisance" problems, especially electrical stuff (how long have they been building cars?). They ride beautifully, nice features, long lasting, great seats, safe- but pricey also. That's why I am looking at a mid-size GM/Ford Fusion/Asian brands to replace it. Volvos used to have a corner on safety and a nice image, but the Asians especially have caught up bigtime Replies to this message: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 12:59 pm)
#3557 of 11674 Re: About Volvos [lweiss] by rockylee Apr 19, 2006 (12:59 pm)
Replying to: lweiss (Apr 19, 2006 12:55 pm) The Europeans are still safer, and I'll put up the new S80 against any asian you can name when it comes to safety features. Do a comparison for yourself and you will still see a big gap between the cars you just mentioned. The fusion got a poor ration during it's crash test, so you can see uncle Bill didn't apply any Volvo safety techniques to that POS. Rocky
#3558 of 11674 Re: Cobalt or Tibby? Easy choice there. [62vetteefp] by dieselone Apr 19, 2006 (1:05 pm)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Apr 19, 2006 12:29 pm) JD Powers is a scientific, math based study based on sound principles. It is unbiased. Any posters who say other wise are wrong. Who do you think these posters would be? Oh I don't know, no need for me to do any finger pointing, they'll post something eventually regarding the fact they'd push a Cobalt before they'd be seen in a Hyundai. LOL Which based on CU and JD Powers info might be reality. Replies to this message: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:16 pm) m1miata (Apr 19, 2006 1:44 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:52 pm)
#3559 of 11674 Re: Cobalt or Tibby? Easy choice there. [dieselone] by rockylee Apr 19, 2006 (1:16 pm)
Replying to: dieselone (Apr 19, 2006 1:05 pm) Oh I don't know, no need for me to do any finger pointing, they'll post something eventually regarding the fact they'd push a Cobalt before they'd be seen in a Hyundai. LOL Well you already know I'm in that crowd. Rocky Replies to this message: m1miata (Apr 19, 2006 1:44 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:52 pm)
#3560 of 11674 Re: Well here's my OPINION of the greatest new car ever built to date !!!!! by m1miata Apr 19, 2006 (1:35 pm)
Replying to: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 12:57 am) Hey Rocky, that Volvo S80 looks pretty neat. I would just buy the Hyundai Sonata V6, same HP as the Volvo V6, and save the money for gas. Oh yeah, less insurance cost, fewer trips to get things fixed, and a long-long warranty. Looks like a new Altima adds to the list of other cars for GM to worry about. The Volvo s40 is kinda interesting, but I would just buy the Mazda3 and pocket the difference for gas, and a burger along the way. Volvos are know for expensive parts, and some for less than stellar reliability. I realize you don't read the Consumer Reports, and JD Powers. The MSN Auto site has reliability section too, for those used cars. They actually have the most common repairs needed and the cost of such a repair. Very interesting. I do kinda like those s40's. Sort of odd styling, but it is at least different, as in someone made a effort to break out of the common design of the jelly bean. -Loren Replies to this message: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:45 pm) jvpr (Apr 21, 2006 5:58 pm) rockylee (Apr 22, 2006 5:35 pm) and 1 more...