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#3550 of 11674 Re: GM woes [carlisimo] by logic1 Apr 19, 2006 (6:10 am)
Replying to: carlisimo (Apr 19, 2006 6:05 am) The Sky is designed here, but the styling is basically an evolution of the Speedster. I'm not trying take away credit from the Sky's designers, but point out that the design theme came from Europe. Ok. I got you. You can definitely see hints of the Sky in the Speedster. Wasn't that Speedster based on a Lotus platform? Nice to see the new car coming from in house. The Saab engineered 2.0 litre ecotec in the redline really promises to be something. Replies to this message: carlisimo (Apr 19, 2006 7:55 am)
#3551 of 11674 Re: GM woes [rockylee] by w9cw Apr 19, 2006 (7:43 am)
Replying to: rockylee (Apr 18, 2006 11:11 pm) I driven SAABs for a long time. My first was in the late '60s and still have two mid-80s Classic 900 models in the family. SAABs are problematic, if and only if, you don't follow the maintenance schedule. Both SAABs and Volvos can be very problematic if they're not maintained properly, and many aren't. Both of our Classic 900s are still going strong with only routine maintenace, and both have over 150K without any engine or transmission problems. I no nothing of the newer generation SAABs built on the Global Platforms, but the older "real SAABs" were reliable brutes when maintained properly. Let's face it, the 9-2X and the 9-7X aren't real SAABs and they never will be.
#3552 of 11674 Re: GM woes [logic1] by carlisimo Apr 19, 2006 (7:55 am)
Replying to: logic1 (Apr 19, 2006 6:10 am) Yeah I think it's on the Lotus platform, but it never got the Celica GT-S engine. Once Lotus upgraded from the old 110hp engine to the Celica's, Opel/Vauxhall released a turbo version. The Sky's a porker in comparison, but it's taken the styling pretty darn close to perfection.
#3553 of 11674 Re: Well here's my OPINION of the greatest new car ever built to date !!!!!!! [rockylee] by gogogodzilla Apr 19, 2006 (9:43 am)
Replying to: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 12:57 am) Out of Volvo's... ... I like the S60 and S40 (in that order). Although, having test-driven the S40, the side-mirrors are kinda small.
#3554 of 11674 RE:3800 [torque_r] by 62vetteefp Apr 19, 2006 (11:26 am)
Replying to: torque_r (Apr 17, 2006 7:15 am) If the 3.6 is upgraded in the LaCrosse it will be 265hp. NO sure where the 250 hp would come from. Replies to this message: sls002 (Apr 19, 2006 1:50 pm) 62vetteefp (Apr 19, 2006 3:49 pm)
#3555 of 11674 Re: Cobalt or Tibby? Easy choice there. [dieselone] by 62vetteefp Apr 19, 2006 (12:29 pm)
Replying to: dieselone (Apr 18, 2006 12:59 pm) JD Powers is a scientific, math based study based on sound principles. It is unbiased. Any posters who say other wise are wrong. Who do you think these posters would be? Replies to this message: dieselone (Apr 19, 2006 1:05 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:16 pm) m1miata (Apr 19, 2006 1:44 pm) and 1 more... logic1 (Apr 19, 2006 6:08 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 6:14 pm) logic1 (Apr 19, 2006 6:24 pm)
#3556 of 11674 About Volvos by lweiss Apr 19, 2006 (12:55 pm)
I have a 1998 Volvo S-70 (107K) and my sister has a 2000 Volvo S-80 (90K), first and last Volvos for both of us for the same reasons- high maintenance costs and many "nuisance" problems, especially electrical stuff (how long have they been building cars?). They ride beautifully, nice features, long lasting, great seats, safe- but pricey also. That's why I am looking at a mid-size GM/Ford Fusion/Asian brands to replace it. Volvos used to have a corner on safety and a nice image, but the Asians especially have caught up bigtime Replies to this message: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 12:59 pm)
#3557 of 11674 Re: About Volvos [lweiss] by rockylee Apr 19, 2006 (12:59 pm)
Replying to: lweiss (Apr 19, 2006 12:55 pm) The Europeans are still safer, and I'll put up the new S80 against any asian you can name when it comes to safety features. Do a comparison for yourself and you will still see a big gap between the cars you just mentioned. The fusion got a poor ration during it's crash test, so you can see uncle Bill didn't apply any Volvo safety techniques to that POS. Rocky
#3558 of 11674 Re: Cobalt or Tibby? Easy choice there. [62vetteefp] by dieselone Apr 19, 2006 (1:05 pm)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Apr 19, 2006 12:29 pm) JD Powers is a scientific, math based study based on sound principles. It is unbiased. Any posters who say other wise are wrong. Who do you think these posters would be? Oh I don't know, no need for me to do any finger pointing, they'll post something eventually regarding the fact they'd push a Cobalt before they'd be seen in a Hyundai. LOL Which based on CU and JD Powers info might be reality. Replies to this message: rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:16 pm) m1miata (Apr 19, 2006 1:44 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:52 pm)
#3559 of 11674 Re: Cobalt or Tibby? Easy choice there. [dieselone] by rockylee Apr 19, 2006 (1:16 pm)
Replying to: dieselone (Apr 19, 2006 1:05 pm) Oh I don't know, no need for me to do any finger pointing, they'll post something eventually regarding the fact they'd push a Cobalt before they'd be seen in a Hyundai. LOL Well you already know I'm in that crowd. Rocky Replies to this message: m1miata (Apr 19, 2006 1:44 pm) rockylee (Apr 19, 2006 1:52 pm)