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Re: Transmission Problems [jasonph] by officespace
Apr 18, 2009 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: jasonph (Apr 17, 2009 7:46 pm)

Hi Jason,
 
That's some bad news, but thanks for the info. Once had a Celica throw a rod through the engine block at 60 mph - didn't think I was going to be able to pull off the road before being engulfed in flames - luckily it was just smoke from the oil on the engine, no fire.
 
The Jeep is currently in the shop having the transmission rebuilt (Jasper rebuilt installed).
 
Took the Jeep to a local repair shop that I've heard good things about. Actually took it to them for an oil change and they gave me more diagnosis information on the trans than the dealer ever did. The dealer said nothing was wrong. The new mechanic hooked it up to his computer and could see where the downshifts were happening in the history log.
 
The dealer solution when I first reported this was to replace:
RS10 - Rear Pinion Oil Seal $175 (not related to trans)
EN18 - Front Pinion Oil Seal $150 (not related to trans)
TR03 - Transmission Cooler lines $275
TR001 - Transmission Solenoid Pack $746
MA23 - Front Differential Fluid - $128
MA24 - Rear Differential Fluid - $128
MA25 - Transfer Case Fluid - $105
 
Total - about $1,700
 
That dealer is now a Hundyi (sp) dealer - saw it on the way to the new mechnanic.
 
The new diagnosis is that 3rd gear was slipping, causing the computer to drop into second gear.
 
I'll let you know how the Jasper trans works at $3,000.
 
- Jim
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Re: Transmission Problems [officespace] (pending Brake Rotor Problem) by officespace
Apr 18, 2009 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: officespace (Apr 18, 2009 8:47 am)

Hi All,
 
Thought I'd get a head start on my next problem.
 
I'm going to need to replace the rear rotors on my '06 4.7L 4WD Commander with about 85K miles. I've already replaced the rear pads at every 40K miles (drivers inboard pad was just about worn to the metal, but the outboard pad still had about 25K left on it). The front pads were replaced at about 75K with another 5-10K to go.
 
My problem is the rear-rotor is completely frozen to the hub. It also has a parking brake drum in the middle of the rotor (who designed this????). Couldn't remove this in the Autozone parking lot, even after this gorgeous woman (Stephanie) with a Jeep happend by and showed me how to remove the oval seal on the inboard side of the drum and use a screwdriver/stardriver to release the parking shoes (haven't worked on brake drums in years). Anyway, the rotor was still frozen. I've tried the back of a large one-bladed axe and an acetylene torch, but couldn't free the rotor.
 
I've been looking for large 3 or 4 claw pullers, but can't find any that looks suitable for under $250. Might try and make something with a few large C-Clamps and some steel bars as a last resort.
 
Anyone have any suggestions on how to get this rotor/parking drum off?
 
Thanks,
Jim
 
P.S. I love my Jeep but here are my past problems:
 
Roof Rack installed with blades backwards from dealer - very loud noise at 60+ mph. Easy Fix, turn the roof rack blades around.
 
Headlights blind drivers, cause them to high-beam me. Factory problem. Used a star driver to lower the low-beams to below the level of the car trunk in front of me. Easy Fix.
 
Trans slips in third, drop-shifts into second when it should up-shift into 4th, violent deceleration, trans needs replacement. $3000 (Jasper Remanufactured), plus $1,700 Dealership mis-diagnosis and unnecessary repairs.
 
Rear Rotor/Drum frozen on hub.
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water accumulating in door jams by sameye
May 02, 2009 (10:31 pm)
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Greetings Mopar lovers,
 
I'm on my third Commander. My 2006 did not have water problems, but my wife's '07 did. I turned the '06 in when the lease expired, and purchased a used '07 with 20+k miles. The problem now with both the '07s is that after a heavy rain, the water pools/collects in the door wells and splashes out when you open the door. No consistent pattern. With my wife's car, it is the driver side front door. With mine, it is the passenger side front door. Dealer keeps talking about drains getting plugged, but can't seek to fix it.
 
Thoughts - similar problems?
 
I would appreciate any insight. I love the cars, but if I wanted a footwash, I would probably seek a different method.
 
Sameye
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water in the door sills by gigagirl
May 04, 2009 (6:13 am)
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Sameye, hello - I went through that exact situation and live in the midwest hence water during fall/winter turned into ice and not just water and/or foot bathes as it were! No matter - all was finally rectified - please read my transmission regarding this about three plus months back.
 
All the best,
Debbie-
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Re: water in the door sills [gigagirl] by tidester HOST
May 04, 2009 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: gigagirl (May 04, 2009 6:13 am)

please read my transmission regarding this about three plus months back.
 
Would this be the one? http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.efdb98e/259
 
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
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Re: water in the door sills [tidester] by gigagirl
May 06, 2009 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: tidester (May 04, 2009 8:45 am)

Yes, that would be the one! It has all been taken care of due to the slits being placed in the door gaskets - about 6 or so on each door gasket (as the newer models now have).
Best,
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Well so it seems here we go again '07 commander issues by gigagirl
Jul 27, 2009 (7:21 am)
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I have posted prior - the one that had the massive water in the door sills which turned into ice and doors wouldn't open etc. - finally after much back and forth got to the bottom of it!
 
Like almost one year ago when we were returning from Door County and stopped in Sheboygan to get gas - we turned the car off and it would not even turn over - had to have it flatbedded to Libertyville! That was electrical and was then fixed.
 
Now...for the past month have reencountered similar issues. At a home depot came out to the car and it wouldn't turn over - would not start - dashboard lights came on - radio - on but the car wouldn't turn over - a slight clicking sound was heard. Let it sit while steaming calling my husband to contact my dealership to pick the ..car up and about 25 minutes later while sitting there - low and behold the darn thing turned on. Immediately drove it to our driveway and was picked up to return to our office - not trusting it. The following day went out and the thing turned on like normal.
 
This past weekend - while in Wheaton went to leave from a relatives home and the car would not - again - start up and/or even turn over - nothing - again dash board lights on - radio on - but nothing and this time no clicking noise to be heard. About 2.5 hours later - trying same again - the darn thing started back up - my husband and I immediately high-tailed it home and parked the car in the driveway. Sunday came (yesterday) and we tried the car and again it started right up like nothing ever happened!!!
 
Bottom line - once bitten by a dog I guess...but the mobile is being brought in to the dealership and we do not want it back until which time as someone has determined what the heck is occurring!
 
Anyone else go through this one - this commander is an '07 with only 19,500 miles on it, what a piece of work!!!
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Re: Well so it seems here we go again '07 commander issues [gigagirl] by itabot
Jul 28, 2009 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: gigagirl (Jul 27, 2009 7:21 am)

Let me know if you find out what the problem is. You see that (below is e-mail going to Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge in Michigan) i had similiar problem and they told me that it was the starter. Now, and i haven't addressed this with chrysler yet, i am driving this jeep with the fresh oil change and new starter and where on the dash the D - indicating Drive - is usually lit up it shows me that i'm in 1 and the RPM are climbing. i pull in shut off and start over and the car is fine. And i really thought that this car would be a long term investment; otherwise, for what i payed for it, i should have just gotten a small BMW and called it a day.
 
Follow up to Phone Call This Afternoon:
  
I've already spoken with: 1. a friend who the same dealer's sales people acknowledge was set to buy another car from the them in cash (a sebring convertible), and 2. financial analysts following the current state of the auto-industry and Chrysler in particular, i.e., in addition to reviewing the following within your customer service department, I'd also cc your investor relations department.
 
The Situation:
I purchased slightly used car (Jeep Commander) from the Jeep Dealer in Westport, CT in October 2008. It was working well enough - with exception of radio light flashing - until the day after I picked it up from an oil change service. The service was last Thursday, July 23. The problems started Friday, July 24.
The day after I picked car up from the oil service the starter apparently failed. While stranded with a car that wouldn't start, The dealer told me to call Road Side Emergency Assistance and while The Service Department couldn't give me that number themselves, I had the Emergency Road Side Service Cards that the same dealership had given to me when I purchased the car. They gave me these cards when they gave me the keys.
 
Only when I phoned The Emergency Road Side Service they told me that the cards were no good because they expired one month before I purchcased the car!!!
 
So, another local resident who is waiting with me at the local Starbucks where about 7 people have gathered wondering what could be wrong with this Jeep that looks so new especially after I told them that it only had 30k miles on it, calls a tow truck and I pay for tow on my own ($90).
 
Then back at The Dealership, they have me waiting for hours while they try to locate the paperwork for my car. What they discover is that the salesman who left a month or so after I purchased the car never entered my paperwork; the result: i am not in the system. They explained to me that I needed to understand that as far as they knew on the day that I purchased the car, they thought were being shut down the following month, so things were sort of crazy, some paperwork didn't get entered, etc.
 
So, while they believe I didn't steal the car off of The Lot, they aren't sure that the starter is covered under the warranty. I remind them that at time of sale I was told that (and my brother who covers the auto industry from a financial markets perspective was told that) The Warranty they were giving me on the used car covered everything except the tires and windshield wipers in addition to the power train warranty of (8) years/(80)k miles. However, what they insisted on when the starter needed replacing, was that i had the warranty that required i provide a $100 deductible.
 
So, i give them the $100 + 6% tax, as well as having paid for the tow of $90. Only now they are telling me that they can't find any indication in the paperwork -again, never entered into the computer system as is their regular practice - that indicates that I have any warranty at all!!!
 
And that is not acceptable.
  
As I told them 1. I would not be so dumb as to buy a used car without an extended warranty; 2. they should not be so dumb as to sell one without one; 3. they gave me cards for road side service that expired one month before i purchased the car; 4. they should be ashamed of themselves and apologizng to me for selling me a car with a bad starter, I should not be working so hard to get it covered by a warranty; 5. i could accept the starter not being covered under a particular warranty but i will not accept no warranty at all on a used car that has under 36k miles on it; 6. the car is going in for a $1500-1600 30k mile servicing - none of which is covered - during the last week of August, but if I don't have a warranty on anything I'm certainly not having it serviced at a jeep dealership, and 7. the friend who met me at The Dealership and who gave me a ride there while The Jeep was being towed was about to pay cash for a new sebring there but because i'm receiving this sort of treatment he's holding back on doing so. Regarding this friend, his family and he have always purchased - in cash - thier trucks and now their sebring convertibles from this dealership, but seeing the difficulty that i'm enduring he's holding back; the dealerships salespeople can attest to this.
 
Short of Long: I expect the warranty on this car that i was told i had on it, i.e., the comprehensive 6 year/60k in addition to the 8 year/80k power train warranty. I also expect - if they want me to do business with them that is not covered - a discount on my 30k servicing to compensate me for all of this inconvenience.
  
I paid a very large price for this car and I purchased within a dealership - which costs more than not doing so - because of the warrantys! So please contact me and let me know what next steps to take.

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