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Re: The water under the door sills seems to be rectified [carzinmegenes]
by postermike
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Aug 03, 2008 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: carzinmegenes (Aug 02, 2008 7:21 pm)
I've never owned a car that wasn't under warranty. I believe we're all car people so we know what warranty means. Your defense of Chrysler is a bit silly. It's not a matter of just "finding a better dealer" to service the vehicle. None of the problems we have here are with the dealer, it's the manufacturer. I bet you'd be singing a different song if the brakes went out on your brand new $45k vehicle with only 2,700 miles on it. That has nothing to do with the dealer, it's the manufacturer.
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- #264 of 310
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Back in the shop again - 3,585 miles
by postermike
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Aug 14, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Round 3. For the past few days the starting problem I had before (TipStart/Remote Start/Normal Start bumps the engine, it turns over then immediately dies.) has returned. Then today, as I was I was driving through the garage at work, I made a very sharp turn the entire vehicle stalled and the electrical all went out. It did start right back up and I drove it straight to the dealer. Now I'm in a rental Liberty, two days before 5 of my family members arrive from California to spend a week me. One of the reasons why I bought the Commander was because of my family coming on this trip and so that I could haul everyone around.
I contacted a lemon-law attorney today and the process has begun. When I was at the dealer today I asked the cashier to print out my service history. At the very top it had "Days in service - 19". She looked at it and said "Do they have your mileage correct?" I said "Yep, that's thirty five hundred". She didn't say another word.
And, carzinmegenes, this has nothing to do with the dealer. They don't manufacture the ignition modules in the vehicles. This is a Chrysler issue and the fact that they make crap for cars.
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- #265 of 310
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Follow up...
by postermike
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Aug 18, 2008 (5:57 am)
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So the Commander is still in the shop. They had to special order a new (second time) ignition module. They traded me out of the rental Liberty Friday into an Aspen. Unfortunately after getting it to my office I realized the keyless remote didn't work. Wouldn't have been a huge deal except that when you lock the doors with the door lock switch or remote, you have to unlock it with the remote or else it sets off the alarm. Ended up at a Land Rover dealership where Enterprise traded me into a Durango (gross base version, of course.). Chrysler is sinking fast into a pit of muck that is their vehicles. 
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- #266 of 310
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Re: The water under the door sills seems to be rectified [gigagirl]
by carzinmegenes
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Aug 25, 2008 (6:25 pm)
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Replying to: gigagirl (Jul 31, 2008 1:44 pm)
Gigagirl..
Were you getting water on the carpet too? It is possible to post a picture of the slits that they put into the rubber trim? Was it the rubber under the door or the rubber around the door?
I'm getting some water on the driver's side floor after a good rain. Can't seem to find any leak evidence anywhere but the wet carpet.
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- #267 of 310
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Re: The water under the door sills seems to be rectified [carzinmegenes]
by gigagirl
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Aug 26, 2008 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: carzinmegenes (Aug 25, 2008 6:25 pm)
Hi there, no the water was massively pocketed directly under the door so when one opened the door it literally poured out (both driver and passenger) - however that said, it didn't get the carpeting wet but I've read of that occuring with others somewhere. As for a picture of the slits - those very slits are now on all 2008 models - they are on the rubber piecing at the bottom of the door which sits atop of the door sill. They placed about 4 to 5 slits actually and I'll be darn if it didn't rectify the problem. Liberty Auto City, Libertyville, Illinois - service rep is Pete - he handled the whole thing and it was he and his guys that decided since the 08's weren't getting this complaint to see what they did differnt from the 07's (I have) to the 08s and as I understand it they looked under the door on the rubber piecing and there were the slits. Let me know how it goes. Best, Gigagirl
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- #268 of 310
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Re: The water under the door sills seems to be rectified [carzinmegenes]
by docmarc
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Sep 20, 2008 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: carzinmegenes (Aug 25, 2008 6:25 pm)
Did you ever solve the carpet water issue. I was having the exact same problem with puddles of water accumulating on the drivers side. After taking the vehicle to the dealer 2 times and told it was fixed 2 times... I decided to do some repair investigation myself. Searching "techincal service bulletins" were dismally unsuccessful. So I tore the floor of the jeep up and "VOILA"!!! I found and fixed the culprit in 30 sec. If you need insight I'd be more than happy to share.
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- #269 of 310
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Re: The water under the door sills seems to be rectified [docmarc]
by gigagirl
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Sep 22, 2008 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: docmarc (Sep 20, 2008 7:53 am)
Hi there, thanks for your email - no as I'd posted a bit back - they got to the bottom of my situation by placing slits in the rubber piping under the door sills (as the 2008's now have). Do please share however, what did you discover - it's unreal you had to lift the carpeting up - it's no wonder all we jeep owners wave to each other - it's the been there and been through that effect I suspect - LOL.
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- #270 of 310
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Re: The water under the door sills seems to be rectified [docmarc]
by tidester HOST
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Sep 22, 2008 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: docmarc (Sep 20, 2008 7:53 am)
I found and fixed the culprit in 30 sec. If you need insight I'd be more than happy to share.
So, what was the culprit?
tidester, host
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- #271 of 310
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Re: The water under the door sills seems to be rectified [tidester]
by gigagirl
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Sep 22, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Sep 22, 2008 8:43 am)
if you are asking me - there is a very lengthy response already posted by me previously. However, I am curious as to what the culprit was for the party that mentioned lifting the jeep flooring and fixed the problem.
Best,
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- #272 of 310
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Re: The water under the door sills seems to be rectified [gigagirl]
by tidester HOST
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Sep 22, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: gigagirl (Sep 22, 2008 8:50 am)
However, I am curious as to what the culprit was for the party that mentioned lifting the jeep flooring and fixed the problem.
That's what I was asking about. 
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
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