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Toyota in decline in 2009?

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Made in Red China Toyotas Hazardous to the Public by priggly
Aug 25, 2006 (9:26 pm)
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http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2006/08/25/toyota-recalls.html
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Toyota PR Machine by jetjockg
Aug 26, 2006 (3:53 am)
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The reason the American public doesn't know about the poor quality of Toyota cars is because very few people know about it. TV,radio and local newspapers are reluctant to say bad things about a company that pays them ALOT of money for advertising. We have to call our local media and tell them whats going on. Spread the word! What have J D Powers and Consumer Reports been doing the past two years giving glowing reports about Toyota???
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Re: Toyota PR Machine [jetjockg] by larsb
Aug 26, 2006 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: jetjockg (Aug 26, 2006 3:53 am)

What on earf are you talking about ? Toyota makes great cars, and have for years, and tey will keep it up....People who own or have owned Toyota cars know thhis to be true.
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Re: Toyota PR Machine [larsb] by jetjockg
Aug 26, 2006 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Aug 26, 2006 6:34 am)

Go to http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0c6927/816 The truth is finally out. There is an ever expanding list of articles explaining how Toyota has increased it's recall rate 43 fold. Thats the 2002 rate times 43! This occurred mostly because they fired most of their experienced engineers. At the above address you will find the editorials and comments by Toyota owners
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What? by iluvmysephia1
Aug 26, 2006 (7:44 pm)
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Toyota fired most of their experienced engineers?
 
Why would they do that-to save money? Why does Toyota need to save money, either? I mean, how much money did they make last year? 10 billion dollars, or numbers somewhat in that ballpark?
 
Come on, Toyota. I hope they haven't fired their most experienced engineers or Toyota is going to get worse before they get better. Pay some close attention to this, it might just get hairy for everyone's favorite.
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Re: What? [iluvmysephia1] by 210delray
Aug 26, 2006 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Aug 26, 2006 7:44 pm)

No, Toyota didn't fire their most experienced engineers. You won't find a shred of evidence in that thread, because it's simply not true.
 
These recalls are being blown out of proportion too by those who'd like to bring Toyota down.
 
For example, the recall concerning stalling of Echo and Prius cars amounts to a relatively small number of 35,000 or so in the US, and these are 2001 and early 2002 models.
 
The FJ Cruiser recall was limited to only 9000 units. And the problem was their tires were damaged by improper installation onto the wheels. I've used a tire mounting machine, and I know it's easy to damage the bead area of the tire if you're not concentrating on the job.
 
Finally, let's take my personal examples: I've had a total of 3 Camrys in the last 9 years (2 currently). The '97 (which I sold in '04) was recalled ONCE, for a possible loose steering wheel. The '04 was also recalled ONCE, for possible improperly installed (twisted) side curtain airbags. Turns out on this one, my particular car was okay once the trim panels were removed to inspect the airbags.
 
That's it!
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Re: What? [210delray] by jetjockg
Aug 27, 2006 (2:00 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (Aug 26, 2006 8:21 pm)

The attached article describes what I said about the lack of qualified engineers.I am not trying to bring down Toyota. They are doing it themselves by not talking to their customers and not publishing their actual recall statistics.
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_4178250?source=rss
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Toyota reliability by andy82471
Aug 27, 2006 (5:41 am)
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To me recalls don't matter much as long as the company is proactive and taking care of their customers well, which FORD and GM hasn't done well in the past. As long as a car won't leave me stranded on the middle of the road I am satisfied; and Toyota is more likely to not get you stranded than the domestics.
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Re: Toyota reliability [andy82471] by krony
Aug 27, 2006 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: andy82471 (Aug 27, 2006 5:41 am)

I do agree with andy82471 in the sense that the true measure of any manufacturer is how they take care of customers when problems occur. In some senses Toyota could use this to build on their quality perception is they take care of their customers.
 
One can look at GM, Ford and Chrysler quality of the 70's and 80's and can see how Toyota, Honda and the others picked up customers fed up with buying sub-par quality. Today the Big 3 quality is inline with the industry but their quality perception still is a drag.

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