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Toyota in decline in 2009?

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Re: 420,000 Toyotas with [scott1256] by carlisimo
Jul 18, 2006 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: scott1256 (Jul 18, 2006 11:45 am)

I've been defending them on how proactive they are and how happy they've managed to keep their customers, but engine problems do worry me. Especially as I've never been a real fan of Toyota engines (not due to reliability/QC issues though).
 
They do need to refocus.
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Quality problems are by scott1256
Jul 18, 2006 (6:41 pm)
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more serious for Toyota because quality is their best known attribute.
 
Message to Toyota: Carlisimo is right, start refocusing now.
 
And don't try any cutesy-poo shell games with your customers about quality. It will hurt you if you do.
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My question is... by proudamerican8
Jul 19, 2006 (8:06 am)
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My question is, why aren't any of these recalls hitting the news? At least I haven't seen it. I've seen it a ton of times where the news channels tell about gm or ford recalls, why not toyota?
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Re: My question is... [proudamerican8] by kirstie_h HOST
Jul 19, 2006 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: proudamerican8 (Jul 19, 2006 8:06 am)

They tend to hit the news more often when the engine spontaneously combusts, or when the tires fall off at highway speed. Non-death inducing problems like noisy bushings or short-circuiting radios aren't likely to make the news as often.
 
I think it's more apt to be reported if there are a great number on one particular model, or if the defects put one's life at risk, rather than those that are simply annoying or inconvenient.
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Recall woes grip Toyota by c2rosa
Jul 19, 2006 (9:44 am)
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Good Detroit News article.
 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060719/AUTO01/607190391/1148-
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Re: That situation is [proudamerican8] by scott1256
Jul 19, 2006 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: proudamerican8 (Jul 19, 2006 8:06 am)

changing. Toyota recalls have doubled in the last year and the media is noticing.
 
Toyota recalls now make the news. This latest recall affecting 450,000 engines was widely reported yesterday.
 
We will see more critical reports on Toyota now. While a company is climbing to #1 the media cheers them on. Once they reach the top they become a target.
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Interesting article by scott1256
Jul 19, 2006 (11:47 am)
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at the Autoextremist discussing Toyota's recall surge.
 
http://www.autoextremist.com/page6.shtml
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scott by nippononly
Jul 19, 2006 (10:21 pm)
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yeah, that guy is funny. I have to say, when I heard Jim Press's comment, my B.S.-o-meter went off too!
 
proudamerican: I don't know where you live, but here the latest recall was one of the leading items on last night's news.
 
Considering it only affected 35,000 vehicles in North America, that's pretty good heat, isn't it?
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Re: Toyota's media coverage [nippononly] by scott1256
Jul 20, 2006 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 19, 2006 10:21 pm)

will change over the next year or two as it becomes the 'two ton gorilla' of the auto world.
 
We saw this with Microsoft years ago. Headlines like 'Can this band of upstarts displace IBM?' and articles filled with breathless excitement about Bill Gates, the visionary leader.
 
Same with Wal Mart. The media was full of news reports asking 'Will this unknown Arkansas store group expand nationwide?' 'Will Wal Mart someday be larger than Sears or K Mart?' There were articles expressing admiration of Sam Walton and his entreprenurial skill everywhere.
 
Ask Microsoft and Wal Mart how they perceive their media coverage now.
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scott by nippononly
Jul 20, 2006 (12:10 pm)
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they get HOUNDED! I don't need to ask them. I can see it for myself.
 
One thing about a company with a top-notch PR department like Toyota: when the fit hits the shan, you can guarantee that the B.S. will hit the airwaves in response.

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