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3773 messages, Last post on Dec 05, 2009 at 6:35 PM
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in their first year have totalled 45K so far, and I do see a few of these around. So it looks like Toyota had a good idea there, although I wonder if we were to pull up Highlander sales, would we see a 45K dip? http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/1160/15-cars-fueling- -the-auto-recovery/
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 10, 2009 6:35 am)  Another serious question is if the shift lever doesn't allow shifting to neutral due to some failure or anomaly, what happens by shifting into 1? It would have slowed the car, if things are working correctly. The motor would still be revving as high as the limiters would allow and the power would greatly resist braking after the car slow into the range for that gear. I assume the trans would go into a lower gear as appropriate with the mapping for the transmission -- assuming the computer control is working correctly or working at all. Many questions. I still believe there's more to it than a floor mat causing full throttle. I want to hear the black box information. I've seen one post of what contents of the data would show. I can't believe it takes this long. On CSI it only takes a few minutes to analyze things!!! 
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 10, 2009 6:58 am) |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 10, 2009 7:28 am) As to why the SD Sheriff's Office is sitting on the black box, I don't know (waiting for litigation which is inevitable)? |
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 10, 2009 6:58 am) Highlander sales are bound to be down this year. They are all produced in Japan and Toyota has cut back all vehicles made in Japan except the Prius due to currency considerations. The Highlander should move to Princeton, IN in the future along with the Sienna. |
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Replying to: surrfurtom (Nov 07, 2009 4:36 pm) 1) I can vouch that you could bounce a Honda/Toyota/Audi motor off the rev limiter in neutral all day and night and the engine won't self destruct. In fact, Honda motors are their happiest at the rev limiter. My friend took his Geo Prism with a Toyota motor to the rev limit every other shift for 100,000 miles, no problems. At an Audi Performance Driving School Fun Day I did recently, they said because Americans can't shift sticks and work clutches anymore, they'd rather we just all kept it in 3rd gear around the track and just bounce off the limiter over and over. Audi decided the engines would be fine obviously, and that the wear and tear would cost less in the long run then having Americans shift gears more than twice to 3rd and ruin even robust clutches. I didn't see any Audi Engines fail at the track, and they had several groups of 10 or so vehicles going all day long. 2) If you'd rather risk your safety over revving your engine a bit by putting it in neutral, then that is a personal decision, and I would call that a bad decision and operator/driver error, so we are back to square one. It all comes down to operator/driver error. |
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 08, 2009 11:05 am) Not really... depending on the time of day it happened, that stretch of the 125 in San Diego/Santee is lesser congested than most any freeway in San Diego County. He just ran out of road, but if he was a good driver, he of taken the 52 west exit and tried to make the WIDE turn on the wide 2 lane ramp. In a Lexus, it might be impossible at 120 mph though, but I think I could make the turn at 120 in my A3, granted, with no other traffic in the way though. |
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Replying to: 210delray (Nov 08, 2009 3:02 pm) First, since when do people pay any attention to the 2 numbers posted on an aluminum plate? Speed limits are paid no attention to because they are arbitrarily set too low to generate revenue for good for nothing CHP-like agencies. Second. there are a million situations where I might need to accelerate myself out of a jam going at 80 MPH down the freeway. If you want to be limited to 80 or less, go buy a Yugo.
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Replying to: andres3 (Nov 12, 2009 9:04 am) A common sentiment among speeders. But most people look at the 2 numbers and add a 5-10 mph "cushion" so they won't be stopped. You can go 70 mph legally on Cali freeways, and 75 or 80 in nearby states. Not high enough? In today's traffic with all of the driver distractions? No thanks. Second. there are a million situations where I might need to accelerate myself out of a jam going at 80 MPH down the freeway. Name ONE (actual, not theoretical -- and not from hooning on the freeway). Funny, I've never had to go 80 in 40+ years of driving to get out of a jam. Steering or braking -- plenty of times. Accelerating more vigorously -- yes too, but not up to and beyond 80 mph. |
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Replying to: 210delray (Nov 12, 2009 9:13 am) My argument to that is that if speed limits were raised to 100 MPH maximum then you wouldn't see people on the freeway doing their makeup or talking on their hand held cell phones anymore. People might actually take driving seriously at those speeds and safety would be improved across the board. Plus, while 75 to 80 in CA is doable, 80 can get you a ticket because a lot of speed limits are underposted to 65, so then you are 15 over. NMA studies have shown that people will drive at a speed they are comfortable driving in general, whether the two numbers say 35 or 55, people will drive what they want, unless they see a CHP officer around hiding behind a bush. Speed Surveys taken where speed limits were increased show that the actual speed of vehicles increased by only 1 MPH with an increase of 10 MPH in the speed limit. The difference was that the previous speed limit made violators of the majority of drivers, while the new one 10 MPH higher (which was more reasonable) made the majority of drivers law abiders. |
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