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#3217 of 6972 Re: I wonder... [210delray] by berri Nov 08, 2009 (5:12 pm)
Replying to: 210delray (Nov 08, 2009 4:53 pm) I know this sounds terrible, but do you think something else might have been at work like a suicide or something? Replies to this message: steve_ (Nov 08, 2009 5:15 pm) kdhspyder (Nov 08, 2009 5:42 pm)
#3218 of 6972 Re: I wonder... [berri] by steve_ HOST Nov 08, 2009 (5:15 pm)
Replying to: berri (Nov 08, 2009 5:12 pm) If the driver was acting irrationally, the brother-in-law on the cell phone in the back seat probably would have said something along those lines. I haven't seen the transcript but I haven't heard anything on the news that would indicate the driver wasn't trying everything in his power to stop the car, or that he was under some kind of stress at work or home. (yeah, I've thought about this angle a bit too).
#3219 of 6972 Re: I wonder... [berri] by kdhspyder Nov 08, 2009 (5:42 pm)
Replying to: berri (Nov 08, 2009 5:12 pm) Yes I don't think so either. When I explained the situation to my wife who had heard nothing about this event she opined that there probably was a typical male reaction present : 'Hey something's wrong here but I can get it under control'. Whether that was ever voiced or not we'll never know.   She said that she would have jammed the gearshifter into Park if she were driving and suddenly realized that the brakes weren't working and that she was going faster and faster.
#3220 of 6972 Re: Kill switch [andre1969] by lemko Nov 08, 2009 (6:00 pm)
Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 08, 2009 3:21 pm) Funny. With all this talk of u/a, I tried the same thing with my Mercury Grand Marquis LS, only at about 70 mph. It has a column shift, and Neutral is one click to the left of Drive on the dashboard. The car slowed and the revs dropped. The car has no tach, but I could hear the engine.
#3221 of 6972 andre1969... by lemko Nov 08, 2009 (6:07 pm)
...isn't the parking "brake" on your 1957 DeSoto really just some device that clamps down on the driveshaft? I imagine engaging the parking brake in a similar situation as the CHP officer would've resulted in one or both universal joint tearing thus stopping the drive wheels from turning. However, a failure of the front u/v joint just tearing away would've allowed the front of driveshaft to drop causing the car to "pole vault" at 90 mph!!! Replies to this message: imidazol97 (Nov 08, 2009 6:12 pm) andre1969 (Nov 09, 2009 5:41 am)
#3222 of 6972 Re: andre1969... [lemko] by imidazol97 Nov 08, 2009 (6:12 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Nov 08, 2009 6:07 pm) If the gentleman in the Toyota had been in the '57 DeSoto, he would have just reached and turned off the "real key" and muscled the heavy beast to the edge of the road!   Or put it in neutral? IS that one of the pushbutton models. I don't think they used electrical connections for the buttons so it would have worked and gone into neutral. Replies to this message: andre1969 (Nov 09, 2009 5:41 am)
#3223 of 6972 Re: I wonder... [210delray] by explorerx4 Nov 08, 2009 (6:21 pm)
Replying to: 210delray (Nov 08, 2009 3:02 pm) ford already has this technology isn some of their models. you get to decide if you want to use it. it's called Mykey.
#3224 of 6972 about 10 minutes long by explorerx4 Nov 08, 2009 (6:41 pm)
listen to this Replies to this message: steve_ (Nov 08, 2009 6:43 pm) explorerx4 (Nov 08, 2009 7:13 pm)
#3225 of 6972 Re: about 10 minutes long [explorerx4] by steve_ HOST Nov 08, 2009 (6:43 pm)
Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 08, 2009 6:41 pm) Heh, dissecting search terms. That's an interesting angle. I wonder how many people are hitting CarSpace looking for the same info. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Nov 08, 2009 7:13 pm)
#3226 of 6972 Re: I wonder... [210delray] by gagrice Nov 08, 2009 (6:50 pm)
Replying to: 210delray (Nov 08, 2009 4:53 pm) The last mile before the T intersection and the end of 125 freeway is very steep. It is rolling back about two miles from the end.   I still don't understand why the officer: 1. Did not put the car in neutral.   That is the biggest question in my mind. It would be the first thing I would do, long before the car got to 120 MPH. I was expecting the NHTSA or CR or somebody to test that aspect. What happens if you try shifting out of gear at 100 MPH+ in an ES350 with the throttle stuck wide open? The CR tests were worthless in duplicating this situation and the NHTSA only took pictures and identified the floor mat as being the wrong one. They also said the brakes were burnt up from trying to stop.   I don't remember any guard rails. Only a gravel ditch on either side that would probably cause you to roll at that speed. Exiting onto 52 would get you into even heavier traffic. I believe he was trying his best to avoid other vehicles.   I believe we are being kept in the dark on the black box. Is it a bombshell for Lexus? I cannot imagine that it takes over 2 months to decipher what it holds. Will this go down like the other fatal accidents in Toyota built vehicles? Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Nov 09, 2009 9:09 pm)

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