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Re: I wonder... [kdhspyder]
by lemko
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Nov 08, 2009 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 07, 2009 7:18 am)
"Smart pedals" feh! Just another cost added to already too expensive cars. Imagine what a horrible monster a horse would be if the government forced genetic engineers to require "safety features" spliced into equine DNA! 
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- #3198 of 3863
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Re: I wonder... [british_rover]
by lemko
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Nov 08, 2009 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Nov 07, 2009 10:28 am)
When I come home from NE Pennsylvania after visiting family, there's a long steep mountain that actually has runaway truck ramps at a slight upgrade with piles of gravel. I shift my car into a lower gear to save the brakes when going down this hill.
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Re: Kill switch [surrfurtom]
by lemko
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Nov 08, 2009 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: surrfurtom (Nov 07, 2009 4:36 pm)
Maybe on an older vehicle, but I remember andre1969 posting that there was a rev-limiter in his 2000 Intrepid to keep the engine from self-destructing in such a situation. Under a situation as faced by the CHP officer, I'd rather kill the engine or transmission rather than myself and my family!
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Re: I wonder... [lemko]
by steve_ HOST
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Nov 08, 2009 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 08, 2009 11:11 am)
if the government forced genetic engineers to require "safety features" spliced into equine DNA
Horses have been bred for, I dunno, centuries? They've been bred for a lot of qualities, including gentleness (i.e., safety). You want that Mustang to be a well behaved pony and not Pinto on you, don't you?
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Re: I wonder... [lemko]
by gagrice
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Nov 08, 2009 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 08, 2009 11:11 am)
Smart pedals should not be a high dollar option. Just a bit of code written into the ECU to shut down the throttle when the brakes are applied at speed. VW/Audi has had it since 2001. Probably as a result of their runaway problems.
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Re: I wonder... [gagrice]
by berri
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Nov 08, 2009 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 08, 2009 1:23 pm)
I read in the LA Times about all of the disregarded reports of Toyota acceleration. It seems weird that there are those many incidents attributed to floor mats. I have to wonder if their peddle linkage or electronic interface has a problem? I also wonder about the cruise control?
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- #3203 of 3863
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Re: I wonder... [berri]
by houdini1
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Nov 08, 2009 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Nov 08, 2009 1:27 pm)
That is weird, but do you ever wonder about driver error?
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- #3204 of 3863
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Re: I wonder... [houdini1]
by kdhspyder
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Nov 08, 2009 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 08, 2009 1:36 pm)
Or CYA reports...
Again no independent reputable agency of any kind has found any substantiation for unintended acceleration in these reports. To me that speaks most loudly. All these reports have one vector. They come from the operators but no one can verify any of them.
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- #3205 of 3863
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Re: I wonder... [houdini1]
by berri
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Nov 08, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 08, 2009 1:36 pm)
Yeah, driver error may well be the issue, I think it was on Audi. However, I don't find Toyota peddles that close to each other and why the focus on one company? Then again, when media starts flying people can get a little nuts or paranoid I suppose.
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Re: I wonder... [gagrice]
by 210delray
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Nov 08, 2009 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 08, 2009 1:23 pm)
Maybe while the code is being rewritten (if in fact it is that simple), they should add this little extra bit of safety (controversial among enthusiasts I'm sure): Limit the top speed of the car to 85 or 90 mph.
The highest speed limit in the US (and Canada I think) is 80 mph on about 500 miles of I-10 and I-20 in west Texas and on 2 stretches of I-15 in Utah.
Why does any car in today's traffic need to go above 90 mph? If you say you need reserve power at 80 mph to get out of a jam, I'd find that hard to believe.
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