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Toyota in decline in 2009?

3627 messages,  Last post on Nov 29, 2009 at 8:36 PM

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Re: Kill switch [surrfurtom] by explorerx4
Nov 07, 2009 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: surrfurtom (Nov 07, 2009 5:46 pm)

you really need to review the NHTSA report about this incident.
it would help you make more informed posts.
also, have you ever heard of an inertia switch?
these have been around at least since the early 80's when fuel injection became mainstream.
shutting off the engine cuts off the power assist to the steering and brakes.
smart pedal retains them.
i like that better.
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Re: Kill switch [surrfurtom] by kdhspyder
Nov 07, 2009 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: surrfurtom (Nov 07, 2009 4:49 pm)

Over on Prius Chat they have been doing exactly this. As corvette noted there is no chance of grenading your engine if you have a more modern one. The rev limiter works as explained.
 
At 80 mph the engine slows to idle and the vehicle slows down.
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Re: I wonder... [kdhspyder] by explorerx4
Nov 07, 2009 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 07, 2009 6:17 pm)

something you didn't know, but is it real?
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Re: Kill switch [surrfurtom] by 210delray
Nov 07, 2009 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: surrfurtom (Nov 07, 2009 5:46 pm)

There might be a time though when the engine is running wild after an accident, and is pumping fuel through a broken fuel line etc even though vehicle motion is stopped.
 
As has been noted, this is generally not true for today's cars. Many will shut down the fuel pump, turn on the hazard flashers and interior dome light, and unlock the doors. Some, such as GM cars with OnStar, will automatically call 911 if the impact is severe enough.
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Re: I said I'd check the 2010 LaCrosse owner's manual [210delray] by lemko
Nov 08, 2009 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: 210delray (Nov 06, 2009 7:09 pm)

Hmmm! I'll have to look at the manual for my Cadillac DTS Performance and see if it has a chapter on defensive driving. The thing's already as thick as a Microsoft manual and comes with a smaller quick reference manual which itself is thicker than the entire owner's manual that came with my 1968 Buick Special Deluxe.
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Re: I wonder... [gagrice] by lemko
Nov 08, 2009 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 06, 2009 8:11 pm)

The fact that the CHP officer didn't get killed or kill somebody else a lot quicker in the incident attests to his driving skills.
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Re: I wonder... [kdhspyder] by lemko
Nov 08, 2009 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 07, 2009 7:18 am)

"Smart pedals" feh! Just another cost added to already too expensive cars. Imagine what a horrible monster a horse would be if the government forced genetic engineers to require "safety features" spliced into equine DNA!
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Re: I wonder... [british_rover] by lemko
Nov 08, 2009 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Nov 07, 2009 10:28 am)

When I come home from NE Pennsylvania after visiting family, there's a long steep mountain that actually has runaway truck ramps at a slight upgrade with piles of gravel. I shift my car into a lower gear to save the brakes when going down this hill.
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Re: Kill switch [surrfurtom] by lemko
Nov 08, 2009 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: surrfurtom (Nov 07, 2009 4:36 pm)

Maybe on an older vehicle, but I remember andre1969 posting that there was a rev-limiter in his 2000 Intrepid to keep the engine from self-destructing in such a situation. Under a situation as faced by the CHP officer, I'd rather kill the engine or transmission rather than myself and my family!
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Re: I wonder... [lemko] by steve_ HOST
Nov 08, 2009 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 08, 2009 11:11 am)

if the government forced genetic engineers to require "safety features" spliced into equine DNA
 
Horses have been bred for, I dunno, centuries? They've been bred for a lot of qualities, including gentleness (i.e., safety). You want that Mustang to be a well behaved pony and not Pinto on you, don't you?

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