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3863 messages, Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 7:02 PM
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 06, 2009 6:51 am) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 06, 2009 7:10 am) Do you really think that all the people employed at that dealership need to be 'punished'? No, wait, what am I asking, of course you do.
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that the dummy who overstacked floor mats in the CHP officer's loaner Lexus should be poop-canned immediately, if not sooner. larsb-man, I respectfully disagree with you on this one. We agree on many "green" issues and are both living in the beautiful state of Arizona, but, I can't seem to work out of my mind that this Patrol Officer had a mat stuck under there. Sure, like you surmise, he could've called out to his wife, "Hone, could grab the wheel for a sec, I need to unstick somthing." But you forget how fast that Lexus was accelerating on him. You think that at over a 100mph he's gonna look away from the road for long? What we don't know also is how long it took before the Lexus started propelling out of control and speeding up so fast. If he had noticed the accelerator early on it might've been easier to unstick it. And yes, after my main surmisal, I realize that it still might be an ECU problem, electronic controls failure of some kind. Man, I wish the Sherrif's office would give Nancy Grace some news to report to us on this story that would silence some of this surmising. 
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Replying to: grandtotal (Nov 06, 2009 7:20 am) Besides my involvement with that dealership has been much less than positive over the years. I have posted negative remarks about them long before this tragedy occurred. So you think those good workers at the dealership would have a hard time finding another job at a competing Lexus dealership? That dealership indirectly has cost Toyota $millions and possibly $billions of dollars. Yes I would pull their franchise for both Toyota and Lexus. We have plenty of both in San Diego County. |
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 06, 2009 7:29 am) How about, "Honey, I'm going to take my foot off the brake while you grab the mat"? Why in the world would you need rubber floor mats in CA? Beach sand? I think the dealer was just trying to save wear and tear on the carpet and the correct mat. |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 06, 2009 5:13 am) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2009 9:20 pm) Plus, in a true emergenecy, it would be so easy and intuitive, just hit the "off" to stop unintended acceleration. |
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and none of this holding the button in for 3 seconds nonsense. We need that operation to be even more simple than that. A separate "on" and "off" button should suffice well.
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Replying to: grandtotal (Nov 06, 2009 4:18 am) Just noticed this, and I have to say a huge "DITTO". Automakers these days need to assume that owners are ignorant of basic safety measures related to operating an automobile, and that no-one will read the operator's manual. It may be that Toyota didn't take that into account enough with the design of their recent models. I think it quite likely.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 06, 2009 8:12 am) |
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