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Automotive News & Views Toyota in decline in 2009?
3865 messages, Last post on Dec 09, 2009 at 12:04 PM
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2009 11:48 pm) No. Say it's not true. Toyota putting their own spin on something to save their public image? Naaah. Never could happen. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2009 11:48 pm) |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 04, 2009 8:19 pm) don't forget CR had almost no braking from 80 mph will maintaining throttle after doing the same test at 60 mph. i am not willing to make assumptions about what should work based on what happens in normal situations. systems can have unexpected reactions under stress. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 03, 2009 7:39 pm) Starting price was about $2,300 with all the attachments, $2,000 for just the base unit. After a while of saying the price was way too high, they came down to like $1,650. After a lot of questions; humoring them, I said no, and they started to packup and get ready to leave. JUST right before leaving, he said, how about you buy it at my cost, $1,327.... I thought about that price for a minute, because that's starting to enter the reasonable range (though really high still (but all attachments included). I said no, after they left, I looked in CR 2009 guide. Kirby is ranked #4 (that's good!) but the price listed is $1,350. So his supposed "cost" was the actual retail price/value! LOL.  I'm glad I said no.
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is it just me or is that a ridiculously high price for a vacuum cleaner? $1,350? I could buy me some really nice duplicate Lancer floor mats for that price.  You know, just to have 'em around!
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I've never had any unintended acceleration in ANY vehicle by any manufacturer. Unintended acceleration sounds like driver/operator error to me all the way. And equipment malfunction in and of itself is no reason to cause an accident or injury. As many have said, the CHP is known by some in the loop to be incompetent in every way imaginable or listable, so it's no surprise to me that it was driver error in the Lexus in question. There are many ways to slow down a vehicle, but it seems error, panick and ignorance got the best of some people out there.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 05, 2009 4:31 pm) However, the salesmen cry when you call it just a vacuum, they want you to know it's a SYSTEM, not just a vacuum cleaner. It would have come with all sorts of attachments and gizmos to clean anything you can think of, including a shampooer mechanism. They should probably lower the price to $999.99. I think they'd sell a lot more that way. But I guess there's enough suckers out there that'll pay $2,000+ that it's more profitable to gouge. |
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Replying to: andres3 (Nov 05, 2009 4:00 pm) That includes all attachments including shampoo unit., IIRC> |
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Replying to: andres3 (Nov 05, 2009 4:31 pm) I even reported it to NHTSA, and someone from the agency later called me back to query me about the incident. Months later, I realized what likely had happened. I was wearing boots that day, and these had wider soles than my dress shoes or sneakers. The right edge of the sole had caught the gas pedal while I was depressing the brake pedal. 
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