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Automotive News & Views Toyota in decline in 2009?
3863 messages, Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 7:02 PM
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 04, 2009 7:46 pm) Normal pressure on the pedal in normal situations equals a normal pressure on the brakes. Slamming pressure on the pedal activates the BA function via the ABS system to give you full force right away. If a driver doesn't slam the pedal right away then he/she doesn't get the full stopping force of the BA function. And yes BA probably did not get the right signal in this case as I noted because the driver probably ( my own guess ) thought initially that nothing was really wrong and thus didn't slam on the brakes initially. But this is all speculation and serves no purpose without specific data.
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"Toyota Motor Corp. released misleading information about an investigation into problems with stuck gas pedals that led to a massive Toyota recall, the U.S. government said Wednesday, stressing the issue is still under review by federal safety regulators. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said it was still investigating the case and meeting with Toyota to hear about the company's plan to redesign the vehicles and fix "this very dangerous problem." U.S. criticizes Toyota statement on floor mats (MSNBC)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2009 11:48 pm) No. Say it's not true. Toyota putting their own spin on something to save their public image? Naaah. Never could happen. |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 04, 2009 8:19 pm) don't forget CR had almost no braking from 80 mph will maintaining throttle after doing the same test at 60 mph. i am not willing to make assumptions about what should work based on what happens in normal situations. systems can have unexpected reactions under stress. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 03, 2009 7:39 pm) Starting price was about $2,300 with all the attachments, $2,000 for just the base unit. After a while of saying the price was way too high, they came down to like $1,650. After a lot of questions; humoring them, I said no, and they started to packup and get ready to leave. JUST right before leaving, he said, how about you buy it at my cost, $1,327.... I thought about that price for a minute, because that's starting to enter the reasonable range (though really high still (but all attachments included). I said no, after they left, I looked in CR 2009 guide. Kirby is ranked #4 (that's good!) but the price listed is $1,350. So his supposed "cost" was the actual retail price/value! LOL.  I'm glad I said no.
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is it just me or is that a ridiculously high price for a vacuum cleaner? $1,350? I could buy me some really nice duplicate Lancer floor mats for that price.  You know, just to have 'em around!
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I've never had any unintended acceleration in ANY vehicle by any manufacturer. Unintended acceleration sounds like driver/operator error to me all the way. And equipment malfunction in and of itself is no reason to cause an accident or injury. As many have said, the CHP is known by some in the loop to be incompetent in every way imaginable or listable, so it's no surprise to me that it was driver error in the Lexus in question. There are many ways to slow down a vehicle, but it seems error, panick and ignorance got the best of some people out there.
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 05, 2009 4:31 pm) However, the salesmen cry when you call it just a vacuum, they want you to know it's a SYSTEM, not just a vacuum cleaner. It would have come with all sorts of attachments and gizmos to clean anything you can think of, including a shampooer mechanism. They should probably lower the price to $999.99. I think they'd sell a lot more that way. But I guess there's enough suckers out there that'll pay $2,000+ that it's more profitable to gouge. |
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