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3864 messages, Last post on Dec 09, 2009 at 11:15 AM
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 03, 2009 6:44 pm) No, it wasn't okay. "Dateline" faked it and had to publicly apologize for sensationalizing the problem. They only earned back their reputation by covering crash tests by the respected Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. Of course, now they're back in the gutter again with "Predator" series and the like. The crash tests got too boring as the cars got better. Even without boost, I would think a strong man could use both legs to brake without the power assist. That's what I think also. Maybe he panicked to the point that he didn't KEEP his feet firmly on the brakes. I defend Toyota because they've done fine by me with 3 cars (4 if I include the Corolla my wife brought into the marriage). I grew up on GM iron, so I don't really have a bone to pick with them, except I disagreed with the bailout. I remember their glory days (60s) and wish they could get some of that mojo back, but realistically, they'll never be what they once were.
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Replying to: 210delray (Nov 03, 2009 6:07 pm) The "smart" gas pedal makes sense, but that probably won't end the unintended acceleration fairy tale. Those same folks will still insist that the darn thing must have malfunctioned when they drove thru the garage doors, over a cliff, or whatever.
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 03, 2009 7:05 pm) That "over the cliff" into the Pacific story has the hallmarks of this. Now, I'm no spring chicken myself anymore, but when it said that couple had been married for 46 years, that's starting to get up there, and mistakes like that aren't unusual for *some* older people. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 03, 2009 6:44 pm) |
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Replying to: 210delray (Nov 03, 2009 6:20 pm) My complaint is with Kirby. I never got the free Fly-in Hunting trip the salesman promised. That was about 1972. What a sucker I was paying $1200 for a stinking vacuum cleaner. No wonder I am such a cynic today. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 03, 2009 7:39 pm)
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Replying to: 210delray (Nov 04, 2009 5:55 am) |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 03, 2009 6:44 pm) It better not be okay...I drove to work in one of those today!  IIRC, the accident that started that particular scandal involved a saddle-tank GM truck getting t-boned at 73 mph. I'm guessing the driver would have been killed even if the truck hadn't caught on fire. And I have a feeling that anything that gets hit at 73 mph in close proximity to its fuel tank has a fairly good chance of leaking fuel.
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 03, 2009 5:04 pm) The highlighted text clealy indicates that this is simply your opinion. Your opinion may prove to be right or it may not prove to be right. Thus far no other facts are known so nothing else can be determined until more are known.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 04, 2009 7:39 am)
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