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3863 messages, Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 7:02 PM
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Replying to: stickguy (Nov 03, 2009 1:02 pm) Hit the brake and the clutch and shift into Neutral. |
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I find it hard to believe the black box from the accident hasn't been analyzed already. I wonder if the sheriff's office is being very careful to maintain control of the box and the testing and keep the box in their hands rather than in Toyota's. That might explain why no information is coming out. If Toyota had it and the evidence were exculpatory or could be spun thusly, we would have heard it by now.
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Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration (ABC News) "Refusing to accept the explanation of Toyota and the federal government, hundreds of Toyota owners are in rebellion after a series of accidents caused by what they call "runaway cars." TheU.S. Department of Transportation released a statement Tuesday afternoon saying the matter "is not closed." |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 03, 2009 3:14 pm) |
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 03, 2009 3:14 pm) quote from http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyotas/sudden-acceleration-toyota-cars-own- ers-rebel-accidents/story?id=8980479 Toyota doesn't want to admit there may once again be something real in the problems they're experiencing. Finally a major news network is going to be investgative... on something.
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 03, 2009 3:14 pm) With the variety of locations and vehicles involved it seems somewhat farfetched that no one at any accident site has been able to pinpoint any malfunction other than the AWMs or possibly driver error. There may be something else beside driver error or malplaced AWMs but if there is it's certainly hidden itself in the bushes very well. 'Rebellion?' Where? |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 03, 2009 4:15 pm) Something like sweeps week or Charlie had this big story in the works but had his thunder stolen by the Toyota press release? 
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 03, 2009 3:14 pm) The U.S. Department of Transportation released a statement Tuesday afternoon saying the matter "is not closed." The full statement read: "Toyota has announced a safety recall involving 3.8 million vehicles in which the accelerator pedal may become stuck at high vehicle speeds due to interference by the driver's side floor mat, which is obviously a very dangerous situation. Toyota has written to vehicle owners stating that it has decided that a safety defect exists in their vehicles and asking owners to remove all floor mats while the company is developing a remedy. We believe consumers should follow Toyota's recommendation to address the most immediate safety risk. However, removal of the mats is simply an interim measure, not a remedy of the underlying defect in the vehicles. NHTSA is discussing with Toyota what the appropriate vehicle remedy or remedies will be. This matter is not closed until Toyota has effectively addressed the vehicle defect by providing a suitable remedy." |
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One only needs to read the public comments after the article to find several credible comments re unexpected acceleration. They don't all sound like idiots or publicity seekers by the verbage they're using. They are credible. But a universal theme seems to be that they were brushed off--like a chunk of engine sludge, I mean engine gel.
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 03, 2009 3:14 pm)  4 lives were lost.Yes,very tragic. But negligence and stupidity was a big part here,both by the dealer and the driver. Tending to blame everyone except self is becoming the fashion nowadays. Doesn`t matter if the vehicle involved was a Toyota,Honda,Ford,Chevy,Dodge-- the same rule applies. It was an unfortunate accident due to negligence,stupidity and panic with loss of clear thinking..Sad,very sad but true.
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