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Automotive News & Views Toyota in decline in 2009?
3863 messages, Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 8:24 PM
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Replying to: ck90211 (Jul 13, 2009 4:40 pm) |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 13, 2009 1:49 pm) |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 13, 2009 1:49 pm) Luckily, the economy as of yet gives us some choices.
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 14, 2009 7:39 am) The key difference is that there is much much more money to be made from the vanilla ice cream buyers. In the end this is the only metric that counts. It's the only metric because business is only about cold, heartless profits and cash. As you say it's good that this is such a diverse market with diverse tastes and diverse options where there's room for all kinds of enthusiasts and huge numbers of appliance buyers.
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 14, 2009 7:39 am) Just make sure it's Breyer's or similar quality, with the little vanilla bean specs in it...and not that nasty vanilla "Ice milk" by Lucerne that my Grandmother used to buy in the 70's! That's probably why Toyota does so well...they know how to do "vanilla". The domestics aren't so hot at it. I guess if forced to choose between the three, my first choice would be a tossup between an Accord and Altima, with the Camry being a distant third. Not that I think the Camry is a bad car...it just does nothing for me. Whereas I guess the other two are more like "Cherry vanilla" versus "Plain vanillla" 
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 14, 2009 9:05 am) My mother recently bought a nice used Camry, and it is as vanilla as can be - it is even white. The most exciting part about the car is the moonroof. But, it's a good Breyers vanilla I suppose. An Altima or Accord would be a nice vanilla bean flavor
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 14, 2009 8:31 am) |
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 14, 2009 9:53 am) Then there were just other ergonomic issues, like poorly-placed grab handles on the arm rest, a center console that made me feel closed in, etc. They also had a Fusion AWD model and a V-6 Accord to compare. I liked the Fusion, but when I drove the Accord I was like DAMN...this is an ACCORD?! I know it's not a real performance car like a BMW or anything, but I was impressed! This comparison test was sponsored by Ford, but I'm sad to note that of the three, I preferred the Accord, by a long shot. But, I did like the Fusion better than the Camry. Don't they make a V-6 Sport model for the Camry? If so, maybe that would've been a better comparison? I actually prefer the 2002-2006 style Camry to the current one. The current one looks slightly better from some angles, IMO, but the previous style makes much better use of interior space. The tapered, sculpted-off rump of the new Camry cost it about two cubic feet of trunk space.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 14, 2009 10:05 am) A friend of mine's mother has a loaded 08 Accord that has everything but nav. It seems like a pretty posh car - my only complaint is that it seems just a little too big. But, it's a relatively sharp car for a mass market offering. I think there might have been a Camry "SE" that was claimed to be a sportier model? I don't know if it still exists. My mother bought an almost unmarked 40K mile 2003 LE - it is a 4cyl, but it is relatively well optioned, with CD changer and moonroof. I visited her a couple weeks ago and drove it...it is very solid, and quite smooth for a 4-banger...but there doesn't seem to be much room for fun. But, it has a huge trunk, gets good mileage, and is easy to live with - for a driver in her 60s who doesn't want to spend new car money or spend a fortune in repairs, it's a good choice. |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 14, 2009 10:05 am) IMO the current Camry IMO has the best styling of all the models. I owned 4 Camry's prior to the Prius. The one style that I didn't like was the 02-06 although it did have more room in the trunk. Now that was a very vanilla iteration IMO. The Gen6 model is more striking, both positively and negatively.
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