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Automotive News & Views Toyota in decline in 2009?
3807 messages, Last post on Dec 06, 2009 at 9:40 PM
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I do have a Previa All Trac S/C (supercharged). Not the fastest or best mileage, but handles great (mid-engine is the way to go) comparing to any current SUV's and minivans. At 150K miles it is still young compare to most Previa's I see in SoCal, but the fading/peeling maroon paint makes it look much older than it is. Great car, lousy paint job. Been hoping to go hybrid route (got a Prius) but darn Toyota just doesn't want to bring a hybrid van into the US.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 13, 2009 9:41 am) Worst scoring car was the Corvette, at 63...even the TR8 managed 66. Some scores are now questionable as the cars tested became known as problem children...Audi 4000 at 95 and Saab Turbo at 89 seem funny now. |
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Replying to: ck90211 (Jul 13, 2009 4:40 pm) |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 13, 2009 1:49 pm) |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 13, 2009 1:49 pm) Luckily, the economy as of yet gives us some choices.
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 14, 2009 7:39 am) The key difference is that there is much much more money to be made from the vanilla ice cream buyers. In the end this is the only metric that counts. It's the only metric because business is only about cold, heartless profits and cash. As you say it's good that this is such a diverse market with diverse tastes and diverse options where there's room for all kinds of enthusiasts and huge numbers of appliance buyers.
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 14, 2009 7:39 am) Just make sure it's Breyer's or similar quality, with the little vanilla bean specs in it...and not that nasty vanilla "Ice milk" by Lucerne that my Grandmother used to buy in the 70's! That's probably why Toyota does so well...they know how to do "vanilla". The domestics aren't so hot at it. I guess if forced to choose between the three, my first choice would be a tossup between an Accord and Altima, with the Camry being a distant third. Not that I think the Camry is a bad car...it just does nothing for me. Whereas I guess the other two are more like "Cherry vanilla" versus "Plain vanillla" 
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 14, 2009 9:05 am) My mother recently bought a nice used Camry, and it is as vanilla as can be - it is even white. The most exciting part about the car is the moonroof. But, it's a good Breyers vanilla I suppose. An Altima or Accord would be a nice vanilla bean flavor
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 14, 2009 8:31 am) |
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 14, 2009 9:53 am) Then there were just other ergonomic issues, like poorly-placed grab handles on the arm rest, a center console that made me feel closed in, etc. They also had a Fusion AWD model and a V-6 Accord to compare. I liked the Fusion, but when I drove the Accord I was like DAMN...this is an ACCORD?! I know it's not a real performance car like a BMW or anything, but I was impressed! This comparison test was sponsored by Ford, but I'm sad to note that of the three, I preferred the Accord, by a long shot. But, I did like the Fusion better than the Camry. Don't they make a V-6 Sport model for the Camry? If so, maybe that would've been a better comparison? I actually prefer the 2002-2006 style Camry to the current one. The current one looks slightly better from some angles, IMO, but the previous style makes much better use of interior space. The tapered, sculpted-off rump of the new Camry cost it about two cubic feet of trunk space.
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