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Automotive News & Views Toyota in decline in 2009?
3255 messages, Last post on Nov 10, 2009 at 2:02 PM
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 13, 2009 11:29 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 13, 2009 12:16 pm) It's funny how things change...at one time, Toyota made interesting cars that could even be fun, and Honda was all about logic and sensibility. Now Honda appears more fun, and Toyota is for the most part painfully dull.
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 13, 2009 1:13 pm) |
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I do have a Previa All Trac S/C (supercharged). Not the fastest or best mileage, but handles great (mid-engine is the way to go) comparing to any current SUV's and minivans. At 150K miles it is still young compare to most Previa's I see in SoCal, but the fading/peeling maroon paint makes it look much older than it is. Great car, lousy paint job. Been hoping to go hybrid route (got a Prius) but darn Toyota just doesn't want to bring a hybrid van into the US.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 13, 2009 9:41 am) Worst scoring car was the Corvette, at 63...even the TR8 managed 66. Some scores are now questionable as the cars tested became known as problem children...Audi 4000 at 95 and Saab Turbo at 89 seem funny now. |
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Replying to: ck90211 (Jul 13, 2009 4:40 pm) |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 13, 2009 1:49 pm) |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 13, 2009 1:49 pm) Luckily, the economy as of yet gives us some choices.
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 14, 2009 7:39 am) The key difference is that there is much much more money to be made from the vanilla ice cream buyers. In the end this is the only metric that counts. It's the only metric because business is only about cold, heartless profits and cash. As you say it's good that this is such a diverse market with diverse tastes and diverse options where there's room for all kinds of enthusiasts and huge numbers of appliance buyers.
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 14, 2009 7:39 am) Just make sure it's Breyer's or similar quality, with the little vanilla bean specs in it...and not that nasty vanilla "Ice milk" by Lucerne that my Grandmother used to buy in the 70's! That's probably why Toyota does so well...they know how to do "vanilla". The domestics aren't so hot at it. I guess if forced to choose between the three, my first choice would be a tossup between an Accord and Altima, with the Camry being a distant third. Not that I think the Camry is a bad car...it just does nothing for me. Whereas I guess the other two are more like "Cherry vanilla" versus "Plain vanillla" 
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