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Automotive News & Views Toyota in decline in 2009?
3845 messages, Last post on Dec 07, 2009 at 9:39 PM
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Replying to: yup8 (Jul 06, 2009 8:57 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 06, 2009 9:13 pm) I wonder if any fuddy-duddys complained likewise when headlights made the switch from the 3-candlepower sealed beams to halogens?  I have a lot more annoyance by dopes, usually in small SUVs like RAV4s and Highlanders before they became obese (gotta remain on thread topic) who drive with their foglights on each time they drive. I live in a city, so I don't encounter high beams very often. |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 07, 2009 7:26 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 07, 2009 8:46 am) |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 07, 2009 9:17 am) Funny, though. This was before cell phones. How would I have called them? |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 07, 2009 9:17 am) 
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Replying to: fezo (Jul 07, 2009 10:20 am) However something else was mentioned above that I think bears discussion. Flexibility. Over the last 10 years the buying public has been wooed and tempted and drawn-in by SALE, SALE, SALE....name your price. I don't know this for certain buy I am a betting man and I would be willing to wager that when the smoke clears from the BK proceedings that buyers will find themselves somewhat shocked by the attitutes from the vehicle makers and dealers. The reason for the give-away mentality was that volume had to supercede everything. The makers had to have monstrous volumes to cover their unused Fixed Costs and dealers had to dump all the excess inventories that were being shoved down their throats by the D3 and to a lesser extent Toyota. Now what if the only metric will be profit and minimal inventory. Dealer A: 'Here's the MSRP! There are no incentives from the manufacturer.' Dealer B: 'Here's the MSRP! There are no incentives from the manufacturer.' Dealer C: 'Here's the MSRP! There are no incentives from the manufacturer.' I would be willing to wager that vehicle makers will cut way back on both incentives and production now that they have little or no Fixed Costs to cover.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 06, 2009 9:13 pm) |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 07, 2009 11:22 am) |
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Replying to: fezo (Jul 07, 2009 10:20 am) Funny, though. This was before cell phones. How would I have called them? LOL, that reminds me of something that happened a few years back, when one of the security guards at the Safeway grocery store got a wild burr under his saddle and tried to accuse me of shoplifting. I called the cops on 'em, and said I was being held against my will....essentially, kidnapping! So, if the car dealer's keeping you there against your will, it's sorta kidnapping too, right? FWIW, years ago when my Dad wanted to get a car, after being car-less since around 1984, we went by the toyota dealer, same place where my uncle bought his '03 Corolla. Almost as soon as we walked in the door, it's almost as if they could smell fresh meat, and the salesmen started circling us like
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