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Re: Toyota Arrogance [yup8]
by anythngbutgm
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Jul 07, 2009 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: yup8 (Jul 06, 2009 8:57 pm)
Yeah, definitely try a different dealer like Mcdawgg suggested. There are enough of them around that you could weed out the bad ones. But yeah, I've been there myself. A big reason why I've never owned a Toyota product yet.
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- #2720 of 3863
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Re: I guess [andre1969]
by lemko
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Jul 07, 2009 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 06, 2009 12:18 pm)
Shoot, I was about to say the same thing! I remember getting a low-beam sealed-beam unit for my 1968 Buick Special Deluxe for only $3.99 at K-Mart!
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- #2721 of 3863
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Re: I guess [nwng]
by lemko
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Jul 07, 2009 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: nwng (Jul 06, 2009 12:52 pm)
Heck, I remember changing a low-beam bulb on my 1988 Buick Park Avenue last year. Apparently, those bulbs last a L-O-N-G time. The bulb I replaced was the original as it was date stamped FEB 88!
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- #2722 of 3863
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Re: I guess [gagrice]
by lemko
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Jul 07, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 06, 2009 3:04 pm)
Get one of those tactical lights like the ones you would mount on a rifle. Heck, remember when you could buy spotlights to mount on the A-pillars? I haven't seen any on cars outside of police cruisers or cars from the 1950s back.
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- #2723 of 3863
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Re: Toyota Arrogance [yup8]
by lemko
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Jul 07, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: yup8 (Jul 06, 2009 8:57 pm)
Oh, man! I remember when my girlfriend and I were foolish enough to visit a Toyota dealer just to see what the hype about the Camry was all about. The car was alright, but the dealership experience was akin to swimming in a shark tank while wearing a bloody meat suit. They pulled the bit where they refused to give her the key to her car back and they deliberately tried to separate us so I couldn't help her. There were like five of their salesmen surrounding her throwing all kinds of confusing terms at her while trying to force me in a corner by a 4Runner. Heck, maybe they were going to try to sell me the SUV while they conned her into a Camry? If we EVER thought of buying a Toyota, we sure as heck won't after this experience.
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- #2724 of 3863
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Re: I guess [nippononly]
by fintail
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Jul 07, 2009 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 06, 2009 9:13 pm)
Just wait a mere 20 years or so and there will be a lot of LEDs out there. So, don't hold your breath....for that or HIDs to become illegal. Too many of them out there.
I wonder if any fuddy-duddys complained likewise when headlights made the switch from the 3-candlepower sealed beams to halogens? 
I have a lot more annoyance by dopes, usually in small SUVs like RAV4s and Highlanders before they became obese (gotta remain on thread topic) who drive with their foglights on each time they drive. I live in a city, so I don't encounter high beams very often.
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- #2725 of 3863
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Re: Toyota Arrogance [lemko]
by bumpy
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Jul 07, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 07, 2009 7:26 am)
How do car dealers get your keys in the first place? I've never given any keys to anyone at a dealership and no one has ever asked for them.
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- #2726 of 3863
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Re: Toyota Arrogance [bumpy]
by nippononly
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Jul 07, 2009 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 07, 2009 8:46 am)
It's when you intend to trade in the car you arrive in: they ask for your keys to check the car out and give it a trade value. Then if the deal sours, sometimes the keys get "lost", at bad dealerships.
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- #2727 of 3863
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Re: Toyota Arrogance [nippononly]
by fezo
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Jul 07, 2009 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 07, 2009 9:17 am)
I had that pulled on me once maybe 20 years ago. Would have to be that because my 20 year old daughter was an infant at the time. One "Either give me my keys or let me call the police and straighten it out," got the keys back.
Funny, though. This was before cell phones. How would I have called them?
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- #2728 of 3863
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Re: Toyota Arrogance [nippononly]
by bumpy
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Jul 07, 2009 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 07, 2009 9:17 am)
Ha, that's why you give them the valet key. Tell them you'll trade in the regular keys for a set of floormats. 
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