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Toyota Arrogance
by yup8
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Jul 06, 2009 (8:57 pm)
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Really disappointed here today. I own 2 Toyotas and went today expecting to buy a new Toyota....until I was actually shocked at the attitude of the dealer. Very cocky. Seems they have gotten too big for their britches and they acted like they were doing me a favor by selling me one of their cars. I do NOT like Chryslers or GMs but the Toyota dealer really acted as if they are the only act in town now. To make matters worse, they even pulled the act of the manager holding on to my key while the salesman tried to convince me that they were giving me a great deal (very little under MSRP). Shameful.
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- #2716 of 3807
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Re: Toyota Arrogance [yup8]
by nippononly
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Jul 06, 2009 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: yup8 (Jul 06, 2009 8:57 pm)
Nissan and Ford both offer very strong competition to Toyota, without the attitude. Very much worth giving a little of your time, IMO.
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Re: I guess [fintail]
by nippononly
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Jul 06, 2009 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 06, 2009 3:28 pm)
Really, it is simply that there too many morons in America for HIDs to be responsibly sold. Not to mention too many folks that don't properly maintain their cars. Between the ones that are mis-aimed and all the idiots that just leave their high beams up rather than dim them for oncoming traffic (which is really crippling to your vision when the guy with the brights has HIDs), they should absolutely be made illegal. Don't even get me started on the ignoramuses that are so clueless they aren't even AWARE they have their high beams up.
You should check out how it is when the guy right behind you in your Mercedes sedan is in an Escalade with HIDs. ESPECIALLY if he has failed to lower his high beams. Then make your decision.
I can't wait for LEDs to completely replace these things.
*rant over*
Thank you for your indulgence. Needless to say, I'm not crying too many tears for the Prius customers with the HID problem, but word is they are trying to get class action status, so there must be more than just a few of them.
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Re: Toyota Arrogance [yup8]
by mcdawgg
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Jul 06, 2009 (9:30 pm)
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Replying to: yup8 (Jul 06, 2009 8:57 pm)
I'd try a different Toyota dealer - I've had bad ones, like you describe, so I just go to the good ones!
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Re: Toyota Arrogance [yup8]
by anythngbutgm
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Jul 07, 2009 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: yup8 (Jul 06, 2009 8:57 pm)
Yeah, definitely try a different dealer like Mcdawgg suggested. There are enough of them around that you could weed out the bad ones. But yeah, I've been there myself. A big reason why I've never owned a Toyota product yet.
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Re: I guess [andre1969]
by lemko
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Jul 07, 2009 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 06, 2009 12:18 pm)
Shoot, I was about to say the same thing! I remember getting a low-beam sealed-beam unit for my 1968 Buick Special Deluxe for only $3.99 at K-Mart!
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Re: I guess [nwng]
by lemko
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Jul 07, 2009 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: nwng (Jul 06, 2009 12:52 pm)
Heck, I remember changing a low-beam bulb on my 1988 Buick Park Avenue last year. Apparently, those bulbs last a L-O-N-G time. The bulb I replaced was the original as it was date stamped FEB 88!
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Re: I guess [gagrice]
by lemko
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Jul 07, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 06, 2009 3:04 pm)
Get one of those tactical lights like the ones you would mount on a rifle. Heck, remember when you could buy spotlights to mount on the A-pillars? I haven't seen any on cars outside of police cruisers or cars from the 1950s back.
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Re: Toyota Arrogance [yup8]
by lemko
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Jul 07, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: yup8 (Jul 06, 2009 8:57 pm)
Oh, man! I remember when my girlfriend and I were foolish enough to visit a Toyota dealer just to see what the hype about the Camry was all about. The car was alright, but the dealership experience was akin to swimming in a shark tank while wearing a bloody meat suit. They pulled the bit where they refused to give her the key to her car back and they deliberately tried to separate us so I couldn't help her. There were like five of their salesmen surrounding her throwing all kinds of confusing terms at her while trying to force me in a corner by a 4Runner. Heck, maybe they were going to try to sell me the SUV while they conned her into a Camry? If we EVER thought of buying a Toyota, we sure as heck won't after this experience.
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Re: I guess [nippononly]
by fintail
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Jul 07, 2009 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 06, 2009 9:13 pm)
Just wait a mere 20 years or so and there will be a lot of LEDs out there. So, don't hold your breath....for that or HIDs to become illegal. Too many of them out there.
I wonder if any fuddy-duddys complained likewise when headlights made the switch from the 3-candlepower sealed beams to halogens? 
I have a lot more annoyance by dopes, usually in small SUVs like RAV4s and Highlanders before they became obese (gotta remain on thread topic) who drive with their foglights on each time they drive. I live in a city, so I don't encounter high beams very often.
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