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Automotive News & Views Toyota in decline in 2009?
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 03, 2009 5:59 am)  Whether any of these actually improve sales or just steal sales away from other models, I have no clue. |
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....Toyota is intentionally giving up marketshare due to the currency situation. We've been told to expect ZERO new Japanese-made vehicles in the 2nd half of the year...excluding the Prius. This includes all Scions, all Yaris', all 4R's, all Land Cruisers, all FJ's, many if not all Highlanders. IOW...'Plan to live off the Corolla, Camry, RAV, Prius, Tacoma, Sienna, Avalon and a few Tundras, Sequoias and Solaras.' I can't speak about the Lexus brand. This strategy is clearly shown in the monthly stats for May sales. Toyota is NOT going to ship extra units into a bad market especially at a currency penalty. I think that the days of chest-thumping when the sales stats come out are all but over. GM and Chrysler are about to shrink to miniature versions of what they used to be. Ford??? Toyota is shrinking itself. Honda?? Nissan?? Hyundai is growing itself but it's limited by production capacity. |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 03, 2009 11:16 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 03, 2009 12:49 pm) Explorer gone ( may return as a crossover ) Aspen/Durango gone TrailBlazer/Envoy going Pathfinder going ( may return as a crossover ) This midsized BOF SUV segment is a 'deadman walking' segment. It has no future.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 03, 2009 6:50 pm) |
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link title Toyota’s assembly plant in Higashi-Fuji, Japan, was awarded the Platinum Plant Quality Award by J.D. Power & Associates for making vehicles with the fewest defects and malfunctions. The plant, which builds the Lexus SC 430 and Toyota Corolla, averaged just 29 problems for every 100 vehicles built. J.D. Power released its 2009 Initial Quality Study this week, and for the sake of not repeating ourselves, you can find details on the rankings and procedures here. |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 03, 2009 6:50 pm) Once upon a time, the domestics had that relationship, too, where the Durango/Dakota were the same basic thing, as were the Blazer/S10, and the Ranger/original Explorer. Must have been pretty cheap to make an SUV and a pickup, when it was from the same platform. In more recent years though, they got away from that. Is the Grand Cherokee going away? |
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So what will Toyota do with NUMMI, now that it is burdened with the full costs of keeping it open and running? GM to end NUMMI deal The “New GM” that emerges from bankruptcy is shedding another plant--the NUMMI joint venture with Toyota in Northern California. GM said on Monday that it can’t come to terms with Toyota on a new product for NUMMI to build, so it’s leaving the plant behind in the “Old GM” that will be put to rest in bankruptcy. Throughout the 25 years of the joint venture, the plant provided GM with Toyota-based products such as the Chevrolet Nova, Geo and Prizm and the Pontiac Vibe, which ends its run in August. Media reports say Toyota has offered a version of the Prius hybrid to GM, which could be built at NUMMI and would keep the factory busy. http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090630/CARNEWS/906309995 Basically, everything sold as a GM vehicle over the years and built at NUMMI was mechanically a Toyota. But with Toyota abandoning plans for expanding production in the U.S., even to the point of leaving one plant 90% built and non-operational, you have to wonder what they will do with NUMMI. Certainly it is an important facility in terms of Corolla production, and Tacoma production too although they could probably build a lot more Tacomas at the other plant in Mexico if they wanted to. The evening news interviewed workers coming out of NUMMI last night, who talked about another meeting coming up this week when the staff will be told what is going to happen. They looked worried. Of course, Toyota might have seen the writing on the wall several months ago with regard to this, and this might be the source of the rumors that Toyota was planning to start building Priuses at NUMMI. That would be a good way to fully utilize an existing plant while avoiding disruption of the supply of Corollas (and Tacomas). But if Toyota has to buy out GM's share of the plant, I'm not sure this would be the moment they would want to be making such a purchase. Of course, if all the "old GM" assets are essentially worthless as is expected, maybe the pricetag would be acceptably low.
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