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Replying to: boaz47 (May 19, 2009 3:38 pm) Corolla sold at 8 years, repair total $3.48 Corolla sold at 6.5 years, repair total $0 Current Toyotas: Corolla at 6 years, will keep until 8 years unless it needs repairs, repairs so far $0 Prius at 1.5 years, will keep until 8 years unless it needs repairs, repairs so far $0 |
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Replying to: grandtotal (May 19, 2009 4:58 pm) But I did once consider a T-100 when they were first going to come out as a full sized truck. Didn't turn out to be a real work truck so I passed and got a Ram. But thanks for the information even if I have no clue what it was for.
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Replying to: boaz47 (May 19, 2009 5:37 pm) http://wot.motortrend.com/6540456/auto-news/cadillac-scores-top-brand-satisfacti- on-award-in-autopacific-survey/index.html I note with interest that neither Corolla nor Camry are on that list, but then they probably shouldn't feel bad, Honda only got one hit total, out of 18 categories.... And I guess Prius and Sienna are still satisfying their owners to the max.
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Replying to: nippononly (May 19, 2009 5:45 pm) A study is simply a guideline. I have one I like as well. http://allnurses.com/nursing-news/nurses-most-ethical-133495.html It goes to a earlier post I made. |
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Replying to: nippononly (May 19, 2009 5:45 pm) http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings/quality-ratings-by-brand/sortcolumn-0/ascen- ding/page-1#page-anchor |
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Replying to: boaz47 (May 19, 2009 3:38 pm) My links discuss the current 2009 models the xD and tC whereas your link discusses the overall survey of 2006 models. This discussion is two ships passing in the night. Next.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (May 19, 2009 9:01 pm) No it is not a different issue it is the issue of your attempt to dismiss my opinion of the differences between Hyundai overall dependability and Kia and Toyota’s over all dependability and Scion’s. You indicated I had no basis for that opinion and I proved there was one. As far as recommending a vehicle if I wanted to recommend a vehicle for the expedition race across Kenya I might recommend a Land Rover. Doesn’t mean in the context of these discussion they are dependable only that it is the car most race teams are using in this particular example. In overall rating Toyota is either putting in more effort in their main brand or Scion owners are more discerning. I don’t believe the latter any more than I do that Kia owners are more discerning than Hyundai owners. Yet the “fact” remains the very study you indicated I didn’t read shows Scion and Kia much lower than Toyota and Hyundai. And I posted the site to prove it. So I read the whole thing and you attempted to spin it to say I was misleading. Same ship same topic and you are wrong. |
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For the first time since the recession started, Toyota is now losing market share for the YTD as of 5/31: down 39% even as the market overall is down "only" 36.5%. So it hasn't lost much market share as yet, but the loss is significant given the years and years now of steady and occasionally rapid increase in Toyota market share. And as of May Honda is officially feeling the pinch too, as is Nissan, while the domestics which lost more sales more quickly last year are beginning to even the score. The big winners? VW and Hyundai, growing market share like crazy since 1-1-08. Especially Hyundai. Oh, and litle Subaru is doing best of all, relatively speaking, which is perhaps good news for Toyota given its ownership stake in little ol' Sube. http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090602/ANA05/906029980/1078- (registration link)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 02, 2009 9:01 pm)
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Replying to: 210delray (Jun 03, 2009 5:20 am) And Toyota's is only down a little this year, but that was with $1500-2000 cash back on Camrys and Corollas, the highest cash incentives Toyota has had on those models in a long long time (I can't recall a Corolla incentive of more than $1000 in the last 20 years, but I could be forgetting something, who knows). What other tricks can Toyota pull out of its bag to gain back sales?
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