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Replying to: nippononly (May 08, 2009 12:28 pm) Before the Altima Nissan was in deep trouble and now with this downturn we will have to see just how much Renault is willing to prop them up. The Titan didn't reach projection nor did the Armanda. My guess is Nissan will report a pretty big loss this year. |
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Replying to: nippononly (May 08, 2009 12:28 pm) Yes Toyota was much more involved in the BOF vehicles much like the detroiters but it's product portfolio was in much better balance. Whereas the other 3 were 60-75% dependent on these products Toyota's BOF sales here were more in the range of 30-35% of total. That 30-35%, or about 600K vehicles, is in the crapper now. But Toyota also had to account for currency losses for the last 6 months on a large part of it's sales, almost 50% which were imported, including a bunch of BOF vehicles. There was a double whammy there. So ... they've cut back on the exports from Japan and they've cut WAY back on the BOF vehicle production. But the weight of the producing plants remains. |
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (May 04, 2009 9:45 am) There is no choice but to point out the obvious here.  But anyone that would take a chance on a Kia after they went BK and were picked up by Hyundai has very little room to complain about anyone let alone Fiat.  But you have a right to your opinion. I never liked the sales and service of VW but the new VWs almost tempted me.
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Replying to: boaz47 (May 12, 2009 1:24 pm)
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Replying to: berri (May 12, 2009 6:11 pm) But if you look at how things are right now entry level cars are doing better than just about anyone.
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Replying to: boaz47 (May 17, 2009 8:17 pm) Most reliable small car 2009 ( CR ) .. Scion xD. http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/autos/0810/gallery.cr_most_reliable/3.html Also very reilable sporty car 2009 ( CR ) ,, Scion tC http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/autos/0810/gallery.cr_most_reliable/4.html The low-volume Scion xB is 'middle of the pack' according to JD Power. Your characterisations are at best unintentionally erroneous due to lack of knowledge or .... intentionally misleading. Since these ratings are so widely published and available in numerous places all over the internet you should at least check a few sources before typing. Facts are your friends.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (May 18, 2009 9:29 am) Not wanting to trust my memory I looked up the 2009 JD powers dependability study, posted as you say for everyone to see and two things were easy to see. Toyota still was near thee top as a whole and Scion was still below Hummer, Jeep and even Kia. Explain that if they are putting as much effort into quality as their main brand. Now look at Hyundai in the very same graph. Here is the site so everyone else can see for themselves, since you brought it up. http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2009043 Now explain how Hyundai who owns Kia can be above average and Kia well below if they are putting the same effort into both brands. And I have the very same question for Toyota quality if Scion gets such a low rating?  I know it is tempting to cherry pick models and forget brands. There are good VW models as well but as a company? I bet there is even a good Suzuki but where are they rated? We often talk about company reputation when talking about domestics but retreat to a good model when talking about foreign cars. doubble standard?
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Replying to: boaz47 (May 19, 2009 3:38 pm) Corolla sold at 8 years, repair total $3.48 Corolla sold at 6.5 years, repair total $0 Current Toyotas: Corolla at 6 years, will keep until 8 years unless it needs repairs, repairs so far $0 Prius at 1.5 years, will keep until 8 years unless it needs repairs, repairs so far $0 |
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Replying to: grandtotal (May 19, 2009 4:58 pm) But I did once consider a T-100 when they were first going to come out as a full sized truck. Didn't turn out to be a real work truck so I passed and got a Ram. But thanks for the information even if I have no clue what it was for.
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Replying to: boaz47 (May 19, 2009 5:37 pm) http://wot.motortrend.com/6540456/auto-news/cadillac-scores-top-brand-satisfacti- on-award-in-autopacific-survey/index.html I note with interest that neither Corolla nor Camry are on that list, but then they probably shouldn't feel bad, Honda only got one hit total, out of 18 categories.... And I guess Prius and Sienna are still satisfying their owners to the max.
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