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Toyota in decline in 2009?

3725 messages,  Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 8:13 PM

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Re: devious! [kdhspyder] by nippononly
Apr 07, 2009 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Apr 06, 2009 6:15 am)

I do have to question if anyone, either dealer or private party, in their right mind would pay $7700 for a 240K Prius. I think that would be a hard sell.
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Re: devious! [nippononly] by grandtotal
Apr 08, 2009 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 07, 2009 8:19 pm)

If I were to pay $7700 for a 240K mile anything, then a Prius is one of the vehicles I'd have least qualms about.
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reorganization by steve_ HOST
Apr 08, 2009 (10:43 am)
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Toyota Considers Revamp Of U.S. Operations To Stem Losses, Reports Say
 
Not looking good for Tupelo.
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Re: reorganization [steve_] by nippononly
Apr 08, 2009 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 08, 2009 10:43 am)

from the article you linked...
 
The Tundra came into the market as pickup truck sales began their precipitous slide -- a slide that continues in dramatic fashion in 2009 with Toyota losing money on every one. The truck is built at a new plant in San Antonio that came in over budget and has not been running at full capacity
 
You have to onder how conservative Toyota's most conservative estimate for Tundra sales was. They had to at least be CONSIDERING the possibility that Tundra would sell no better after the total revamp. And in fact, it mostly hasn't. But it's also not much lower now in sales than it was in the last year's of the previous model, is it?
 
Toyota executives are also faced with what to do with a plant it has under construction in Mississippi. It originally was going to build the Toyota Highlander, until SUVs fell out of American favor, and then it was set to assemble the Toyota Prius hybrid, but hybrid sales have been soft with low gas prices.
 
In the case of both Mississippi and San Antonio, it seems to me Toyota would be better off finishing what it started, then moving production to the States of all the models (like RAV4 and Yaris) that it currently produces in Japan and which are subject to the losses inherent in the terrible yen exchange rate.
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Re: reorganization [nippononly] by kdhspyder
Apr 09, 2009 (4:17 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 08, 2009 8:21 pm)

Agree on this also. It gives good balance to their various production sites. However the rate of JY / US$ has almost completely rebounded from its slide to the high 80's. The rate is back up over 100 : 1 today. That's only about 7% lower than where it's been over the last 15 years. Exports are not such a penalty as they were. .
 
The Bank of Japan is now also in the business of printing funny money.
 
 However plans still remain NOT to export to the US for most products made in Japan. The 2010 Prius is an exception. Volumes are going to be WAY WAY down beginning in the June / July period through the end of the year.
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sales fall below 7 million by steve_ HOST
Apr 13, 2009 (9:32 pm)
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"Toyota may report an operating loss for a second-straight year, the Japanese newspaper Nikkei reported."
 
Toyota May Report Operating Loss for Second Year (AutoObserver)
 
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Re: sales fall below 7 million [steve_] by nippononly
Apr 14, 2009 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 13, 2009 9:32 pm)

11-1/2 months ahead is an AWFUL long time to be prognosticating.
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Re: sales fall below 7 million [nippononly] by steve_ HOST
Apr 14, 2009 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 14, 2009 12:08 pm)

lol, yeah, but the doom and gloom drives traffic to the newspaper (and to the forums ).
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Re: sales fall below 7 million [steve_] by gagrice
Apr 15, 2009 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 14, 2009 2:59 pm)

Lord knows the newspapers need readers. The forums will thrive in the new paperless society.
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Re: sales fall below 7 million [steve_] by mcdawgg
Apr 15, 2009 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 13, 2009 9:32 pm)

I'd bet they are being a little pessimistic, because that way they will look better if the actual numbers are better. It's a common thing that many companies do.

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