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Automotive News & Views Toyota in decline in 2009?
3714 messages, Last post on Dec 02, 2009 at 6:24 PM
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Yesterday I got a close up look at, in and around the new 2010 Gen 3 Prius at a preliminary showing to the DC Auto show. It was presented by the Prius Marketing Team which is travelling around the country o some of the local auto shows after NAIAS. Pricing is not known and will not be known until April. Preliminary thoughts from Detroit and other sources is that the pricing for the bulk of the volume in sales will not be changed very much from the Gen 2's; i.e. MSRP's from $24000-ish to $30000-ish. The premium, low volume Platinum Edition may be well above $30000. The exterior looks very much the same.. Under the hood is where the bulk of the changes are.. The interior is significantly changed.. The Fuel Economy should be 8-10% better with much improvement on the highway segment especially at 75 and 80 mph. Plugins are an option for the future but the reality is that there is just not much money to be made from them for some time to come. They will likely be one option among many. Hybrid technology is just so simple and reliable now that it's next step is to expand to a wider field. The costs are down dramatically, thus the cost savings are able to be 'rolled back into the vehicle' in terms of additional options and safety equipment. The limiting factor for all hybrid vehicle makers as of today is supply of batteries and hybrid components. No more can be made at the moment so until some of the new battery-producing factilities come on stream there's little incentive to expand the technology to other vehicles.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 03, 2009 7:55 pm) And I'm not be Pious, But with nearly four dollar gas, I'm glad I bought a Prius. Original (poor) poetry by Larsb P.S. I didn't really buy a Prius. It's just Art, dude.
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Replying to: larsb (Feb 04, 2009 6:38 am) And I'm not be Pious, I can't afford La Jolla I can afford a Sequoia
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 04, 2009 6:43 am) How do you like mine? It's not a junker, But it is a clunker. Burma Shave. |
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Roses are red Violets are blue I bought myself a Mitsubishi Won't you buy one too? steve...might it be time to resurrect the 'Auto Haiku' thread? 
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Feb 04, 2009 10:58 am) You're off-topic btw - gotta be a Toyota rhyme in here. 
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Feb 03, 2009 7:55 pm) Plug-in isn't rocket science any more, it is just fairly expensive, and I can appreciate why Toyota is not yet ready to make it a factory option. But the dealer-installed thing makes sense, I think.
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Replying to: nippononly (Feb 04, 2009 1:35 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 04, 2009 1:46 pm) Why take any responsibility on such a product, plugin conversion, if there's little or no volume or profit involved. That being said they do want to be a supplier of aftermarket truck accessories!! Why? There are HUGE volumes involved thus HUGE potential profits. Toyota clearly only wants to be an OEM of vehicles - unless there is good potential profit to be made after the sale. I agree that I don't think that there is much money to be made in aftermarket plugin conversions. |
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Looked at a Toyota Yaris for a while And decided that it just wasn't my style Test-drove a Scion xA and tC Convincing the wife on either proved to not be easy
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