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Automotive News & Views Toyota in decline in 2009?
3194 messages, Last post on Nov 07, 2009 at 7:56 PM
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 12, 2009 6:48 am) Really?? I haven't seen anything about the EPA numbers at all. All I've seen are the various 'leaks' to the hybrid sites. I was expecting 50-54 mpg. Is this from a Toyota dispatch?
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 12, 2009 7:16 am) |
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| ...isn't really that impressive when you realize VW put out a 50 MPG diesel Rabbit back in 1980. | |
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 8:13 am) But that 1980s Rabbit was a tin can deathtrap compared to modern cars, too. |
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 8:13 am) |
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 8:13 am) Actually they haven't gone backward it's just that the vehicles are larger, heavier and more energy-sapping. They are also cleaner, quieter, smoother, safer and more reliable. Try to sell a 50 mpg 1980's version Rabbit today and you wouldn't be able to sell even one. You might as well be trying to sell buggy whips. |
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 8:13 am) |
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.. at the launch announcement the first numbers announced today were the EPA Fuel Economy ( est ) number combined. Lentz said that whereas the current vehicle rates 46 on the EPA tests they expect the G3 to get a rating of 50. Adjust your values accordingly. Since I currently get 48 on the G2, I'd expect to get 52-53 on the G3. The vehicle apparently will be 20-30% more powerful at the same time as a result of the 1.8L ICE replacing the 1.5L ICE.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 12, 2009 9:19 am) Wonder where the missing MPG went?
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 12, 2009 7:19 am) Question, why are they giving UK figures and prices at the Detroit Auto show. Did we switch to pound sterling? This combined effort means the new Prius will, return around 75mpg and emit less than 100g/km of C02. All this will come at a cost though, when the new Prius is released in October prices will start from £18,225. Further details to follow after the new Prius is officially unveiled... That is about $27k for a base model.... |
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