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Automotive News & Views Toyota in decline in 2009?
3551 messages, Last post on Nov 25, 2009 at 6:16 PM
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 12, 2009 6:48 am) It all makes the Volt seem kind of irrelevant, considering that neither of these new Priuses is expected to be priced anywhere near the Volt's estimated $40K starting price. But I assume that the Volt will still beat even the plug-in Prius's electric-only driving range. It had better if Chevy's hopes for it are to pan out. |
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 12, 2009 6:48 am) Really?? I haven't seen anything about the EPA numbers at all. All I've seen are the various 'leaks' to the hybrid sites. I was expecting 50-54 mpg. Is this from a Toyota dispatch?
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 12, 2009 7:16 am) |
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| ...isn't really that impressive when you realize VW put out a 50 MPG diesel Rabbit back in 1980. | |
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 8:13 am) But that 1980s Rabbit was a tin can deathtrap compared to modern cars, too. |
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 8:13 am) |
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 8:13 am) Actually they haven't gone backward it's just that the vehicles are larger, heavier and more energy-sapping. They are also cleaner, quieter, smoother, safer and more reliable. Try to sell a 50 mpg 1980's version Rabbit today and you wouldn't be able to sell even one. You might as well be trying to sell buggy whips. |
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 12, 2009 8:13 am) |
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.. at the launch announcement the first numbers announced today were the EPA Fuel Economy ( est ) number combined. Lentz said that whereas the current vehicle rates 46 on the EPA tests they expect the G3 to get a rating of 50. Adjust your values accordingly. Since I currently get 48 on the G2, I'd expect to get 52-53 on the G3. The vehicle apparently will be 20-30% more powerful at the same time as a result of the 1.8L ICE replacing the 1.5L ICE.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 12, 2009 9:19 am) Wonder where the missing MPG went?
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