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Automotive News & Views Toyota in decline in 2009?
3621 messages, Last post on Nov 29, 2009 at 12:26 PM
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If Toyota is "losing money on the Prius" (hint: They're NOT) then they are gonna keep on losing money with the Lexus Prius I guess: Lexus Prius spied
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Replying to: larsb (Dec 29, 2008 10:24 am)  Oh well, it'll have more of a point than the current Lexus hybrids.
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 29, 2008 10:31 am) My own personal theory is that within the next few years they will replace all the lowest engines for each Lexus model with an HSD powertrain instead, so that the volume models will all make at least 30 mpg combined and some will contribute to meeting the magical 35 mpg standard..... I think they should also plan a performance hybrid trim for the IS line - something that goes for about the price of a base GS or a little less but which is faster than a base GS, using a 28 mpg hybrid/V-6 powertrain instead of a 20 mpg V-8.
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 29, 2008 12:43 pm)  Their hybrid strategy right now is strange and pointless...I'd expect a revamp too.
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 29, 2008 2:19 pm) A. There simply isn't enough battery capacity in the world right now to meet the demand of the various hybrid makers; c.f. limitations on the new Fusion hybrid. B. When gas went out of sight Lexus was screaming that they had nothing to offer to the upscale fuel-conscious buyer. Point A. will change in the next 2-4 yrs with more capacity coming on stream but for now the options are what they are. There is little or no room for additional models on a grand scale. |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 29, 2008 8:00 am) To top it off the resale values are ridiculously high and the vehicle requires less maintenance than a traditional vehicle. I wish you would stop spreading these truthes. If you carry on like this more people will buy Prius and the prices will never drop. 
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Replying to: grandtotal (Dec 29, 2008 5:42 pm) One dealer in my area has like 10 or 12 or something at $19,995. I agree fin, Toyota's hybrid strategy is very haphazard. I don't think giving the 4500-pound Sienna a hybrid powertrain is going to help fuel economy all that much, but I am waiting for Toyota to prove me wrong. Certainly the HL hybrid is only good for high 20s. Which is better than low 20s of course.
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 29, 2008 6:18 pm)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Dec 29, 2008 8:24 pm) 
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Replying to: grandtotal (Dec 27, 2008 1:43 pm)
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