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Toyota in decline in 2009?

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Re: Breaking out the crystal ball... [nippononly] by gagrice
Dec 27, 2008 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 27, 2008 4:32 pm)

I just looked at the stats. The LX570 is the Only Lexus that has not had a losing year. The Land Cruiser and Sequoia have also done well this year. Three of the bright stars in a drab year.
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Re: Breaking out the crystal ball... [nippononly] by grandtotal
Dec 27, 2008 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 27, 2008 4:32 pm)

Yes, in production since December 4. Your point is good, Lexus models (and larger Toyota models) are better able to withstand currency issues.
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Re: Help! [kdhspyder] by explorerx4
Dec 27, 2008 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 27, 2008 6:19 am)

kd. you live in NC. up north it is different.
i remember when my sister first got her prius. when she came back to ct for a visit, it was cold. the computer read 35 mpg avg, including highway miles.
driving up my street, the readout was 8 mpg, until my bil shut it off.
overall, she averages 40+ mpg, but 30 is very possible.
our winter gas usually costs 10-15% of normal gas mileage.
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Re: Help! [explorerx4] by kdhspyder
Dec 27, 2008 (10:07 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Dec 27, 2008 8:01 pm)

30 mpg is possible due to conditions unrelated to the vehicle. That was the point of the poster. He believes that the vehicle was defective. In normal conditions it cannot get as low as 30 mpg for any normal trip of more than 10 min.
 
I'm from upstate NY originally so I understand about winter conditions and yes in slick, windy, bitter weather no vehicle will do well. But that has nothing to do with the vehicle. These conditions are covered by YMMV.
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by 04350
Dec 28, 2008 (11:31 am)
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My used 08 Corolla averaged about 36 MPG (80% highway driving) earlier
this summer and fall. Due to winter driving, it is around 34.5 MPG with the
same local-highway driving mix. I paid about $ 9,000 less for the Corolla
than I would have if I had bought a comparable used Prius.
 
A Prius would make financial sense if gas stays at over $ 4 a gallon
for a prolonged period, especially if the owner does a lot of in-town
driving or was switching from a large SUV.
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Re: [04350] by berri
Dec 28, 2008 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: 04350 (Dec 28, 2008 11:31 am)

I think you have to do mostly heavy urban traffic driving for any hybrid to make sense economically.
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Re: Help! [hans7] by claires HOST
Dec 29, 2008 (1:46 am)
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Replying to: hans7 (Dec 26, 2008 7:28 am)

Hi, hans7,
 
A better place to ask is in the Toyota Prius Forum. Try one of these:
 
New Prius Owners: Give Us Your Report
 
Toyota Prius MPG-Real World Numbers
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Re: [berri] by kdhspyder
Dec 29, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: berri (Dec 28, 2008 12:31 pm)

Not really. In 3 years in 85% driving at 60+ mph over 100,000 miles I'm averaging 48 mpg. That's better than any other vehicle I might have chosen back in 2005. It's a no brainer. If I drove it in congested city traffic constantly my FE numbers would be in the mid 50's.
 
The other benefit is that it is not a sedan. It's a hatchback with all the flexibility and conveniences of a hatch but with far better fuel economy than a sedan.
 
It's hard to argue with the flexibility, comfort, safety, reliability and fuel economy.
 
To top it off the resale values are ridiculously high and the vehicle requires less maintenance than a traditional vehicle.

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