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Automotive News & Views Toyota in 2008
1907 messages, Last post on May 13, 2008 at 1:42 PM
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Replying to: mackabee (Apr 06, 2008 1:49 pm) |
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Replying to: petl (Apr 06, 2008 5:54 pm)  From what I've read the Lithium concerns are environmental. Mack |
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Replying to: petl (Apr 06, 2008 5:54 pm) The CVT, the THS 1 & 2, HSD, SKS, Bluetooth, etc, etc. I agree that there are far to few 4c hybrids available from them now. The Venza as a 'Camry wagon' or 'small Highlander' should be a natural for a 4c+HSD option. Ditto the RAV. Ahhh but here we run into one of my favorite conspiracy theories. It's not a conspiracy per se but I do think that all the hybrid makers are playing nice and being gentlemanly as they try to expand the market for hybrids. Toyota doesn't compete directly versus the FEH because it has the HH.. and vice versa. Ford doesn't compete vs the TCH Toyota doesn't compete vs the Civic or new small hybrid ( yet ) None of the 4 competes against GM in heavy vehicles GM doesn't compete in midsized vehicles. GM, Ford and Toyota are all humping hybrids in NA in favor of the new clean diesels. Coincidences? I don't buy coincidences in big business. Smart cooperation is more likely IMO. So why hasn't Toyota come out with more hybrids as it implied it would several years ago? It's letting the others catch up so to speak in order to reach a wider buying public. It is not intruding on the other's respective turfs. 5 companies ( with Nissan ) pushing a variety of vehicles to the NA public is a lot easier than two do all the work and fighting 100 years of inertia. |
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Replying to: petl (Apr 06, 2008 5:54 pm) If Toyota can't get the PHEV Li-ion batteries to be a reliable as the current ones in the Prius, TCH and HH then it will have a hell of a time trying to get people to sign on in large volumes.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Apr 06, 2008 8:11 pm) |
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it Honda that just announced that it sees the future of hybrids as NiMH, not Li-Ion, for the time being? And rumors have already been circulating for some months that the next-gen Prius will still use NiMH batteries, as Toyota cannot ready an acceptable Li-Ion battery pack in time to release the new model next year. And it doesn't want to let Volt beat it to market with the first plug-in. I like kdh's conspiracy theory, although I don't really believe it is a conspiracy. But I DO think it would be just like Toyota to hang back and let other automakers join it in the effort to bring wide acceptance of hybrids to the marketplace. If you look at the sales, it is pretty much all Toyota right now in the hybrid arena, with maybe 5% each from the Big 2 and 10% from Honda. Toyota wants to be very careful not to orphan this technology, in a scenario where everybody else decides they can't compete and leaves Toyota to be the only one in hybrids. But OTOH, Toyota is breaking its previous promise right now, IMO. There need to be more hybrid Toyota models, like yesterday. And by that I mean more really economical ones, not V-6 and V-8 hybrids that can't break the 30 mpg mark (or in the case of the Lexus V-8, can't break the TWENTY MPG mark!) |
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500,000 + matrix, corollas and 100k vibes being recalled for breaking windows.................. Funny they are built in different plants.......One in Canada (vin #2) the other in mexico (vin #3 on vibes), corollas come from Cali. http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/09/recall-watch-toyota-gm-recalling-660-000-vehi- cles-for-window-d/ A broken window bolt gets a recall but rotted frames in a tacoma get a service adjustment repair????????????? 
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Replying to: otto8 (Apr 13, 2008 3:38 am)
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Replying to: petl (Apr 13, 2008 6:38 am) they have fixed the 600,000 sienna doors that have been falling off yet? |
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