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#16279 of 16309 Re: Why on Earth [nippononly]
Jun 23, 2013 (12:42 pm)
Rental Avalon Limited Hybrid? Whoa, that's a spicy meatball. Nav? Which rental carrier?
Friend of mine really likes the look of the new Avalon (he's weird, says it reminds him of a Peugeot), and test drove one. He claims the ICE is low end and no better than in his Prius C that he hates, so it was a deal breaker.
Scion...the recent 10th anniversary model commercial sums it up - cars for people who don't like cars, or at best, want to pretend they like cars but can't commit to it.
#16280 of 16309 Re: Why on Earth [fintail]
Jun 26, 2013 (11:41 am)
The Avalon was rented from Toyota Rent-a-Car at my local dealer. I was curious how the hybrid powertrain felt in this model, so I picked one up for the weekend.
Truth is, this is the first of Toyota's hybrids I don't hate, because it is so well soundproofed that the motorboating engine is a very distant presence inside even when you have the pedal jammed to the floor.
I found it to have adequate power, no more, for high-speed passing with this powertrain. I am sure the V-6 would feel much faster, but if I were ever old enough to buy one of these I would probably pick the hybrid because I am very fuel economy-oriented. I was able quite easily to achieve 41 mpg over the 500+ miles I drove the car, some highway some local. Upon initial acceleration you can only go up to 27 MPH before the gas engine kicks in, even when it is in EV mode. I thought that was OK, but it would be a lot better if it could do at least 35 in that mode. Even then, you only go about a mile or so in full-electric before the battery runs low and the gas engine kicks on.
And yes it did have NAV, although I dislike NAV and had it switched off the entire time.
As for the 2015 Yaris, Mazda has hardly managed to move ANY Mazda2s, so if that is what is in store for the Yaris, maybe it is time to discontinue the Toyota subcompact from the line? Or else, make it really competitive with all the other models coming on-line in that class now.
#16283 of 16309 Re: the one to watch [Stever@Edmunds]
Aug 20, 2013 (8:39 pm)
...and still cranking:
Toyota's new U.S. goal is 2.25 million
At Toyota's recent national dealer meeting in Atlanta, Bob Carter, senior vice president of automotive operations, told dealers he expects Toyota and Scion divisions to sell more than 2 million units this year. Including Lexus, the tally should exceed 2.25 million.
...."There's a new Corolla coming, and a commitment to keeping Camry No. 1," the dealer said. "They want to sell more than 400,000 Camrys this year. They're going to do whatever it takes."
http://www.autonews.com/article/20130819/RETAIL01/308199952/toyotas-new-u-s-goal- - - -is-2-25-million?cciid=email-autonews-weekly&r=7000G0458689C5Q#axzz2cZgVex1g
They boosted Camry fleet sales close to 20% of total Camry sales this year - that's a lot of rental Camrys just to keep a sales goal alive. I suppose this means the financing deals will just get even better over the next 12 months until the redesigned 2015 come out.
#16284 of 16309 Re: the one to watch [nippononly]
Aug 21, 2013 (4:05 am)
I've read that the refresh for the Camry is coming next year and supposedly it's going to be more than just a "Nip and Tuck".
With pressure from the new Accord and Fusion, I'll be curious what Toyota does to keep their lead. It just seems so un-Toyota like to throw a ton of incentives at it or turn it into another Rentibu or Impala and dump them to fleets...
#16286 of 16309 Re: Why on Earth [nippononly]
Sep 24, 2013 (9:43 am)
Avalon hybrid (and ES) gets the same powertrain as the Camry hybrid. Nothing special, but those are all about economy anyway.
They should give the Lexus DI or Li-ion batteries, something unique, but they'd probably have to re-test for emissions and fuel economy.
Mazda2 is a good little car in search of a better engine. Let's see what they do with it. Accent/Rio brought DI to this class already.
#16287 of 16309 Re: the one to watch [anythngbutgm]
Sep 24, 2013 (9:49 am)
Lexus had a great August, with 17.9% share of the lux market. They had not beaten BMW (14.7%) and Mercedes (14.8%) in a while. Let's see the rest of the year.
They still depend on the RX too much, though. The GLA may steal a few of those sales away.
#16288 of 16309 Re: Getting the message? [anythngbutgm]
Sep 24, 2013 (9:51 am)
That is embarrassing.
Just copy Subaru. Forester aced it. In fact it has aced every single crash test since its inception. It never once fell off the Top Safety Pick/Plus list.