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#16224 of 16309 Re: NY Debut [fintail]
Apr 03, 2013 (8:10 am)
Yeah, I think Cadillac swung for the fences with the ATS. Lexus offers...carryover power trains? Really? That lame base V6 with the carbon build up issues?
Drop it like it's hot, as Snoop would say, and at least make the 3.5l standard.
BMW 3er sales dropped so we know that segment is uber-competitive.
#16225 of 16309 Re: NY Debut [ateixeira]
Apr 03, 2013 (8:21 am)
Wasn't the Carbon buildup related to DI? I believe Toyota has re-vamped the 2.5 in 2009 to eliminate the issue.
#16226 of 16309 Re: NY Debut [anythngbutgm]
Apr 03, 2013 (8:23 am)
The 3.5l has port and direct injection, so the fuel washes away any carbon as you drive along.
#16227 of 16309 Re: NY Debut [ateixeira]
Apr 03, 2013 (8:29 am)
I used to follow the IS more closely but I could have swore I read a release in 2009 (maybe 2010) that Lexus had re-worked the smaller engine to do just that. I could be wrong tho, but I don't recall the larger 6 ever having those sort of problems so I can't imagine the update was related to it...
I need to research...
#16228 of 16309 Re: NY Debut [anythngbutgm]
Apr 03, 2013 (8:42 am)
The 2.5l is a V6, while the ATS and others use a 4 banger (N/A and turbo).
You'd never know, though, it doesn't feel quick.
#16229 of 16309 Re: NY Debut [ateixeira]
Apr 03, 2013 (9:01 am)
Or make a good 4, as seems to be trendy in the segment right now.
That little 6 might have some NVH positives, but doesn't seem to be remarkable otherwise, and is probably thirsty.
#16230 of 16309 Re: NY Debut [fintail]
Apr 04, 2013 (6:00 am)
I wonder if the new IS will weigh less? And not just in the press kit claims.
#16231 of 16309 Re: NY Debut [ateixeira]
Apr 04, 2013 (6:38 am)
I bet it will. Finally, weight loss is a trend. Even if it's 10lbs, that's progress.
#16232 of 16309 Re: NY Debut [fintail]
Apr 04, 2013 (6:38 am)
Especially since new models have more features (ex: backup cams).
#16233 of 16309 Re: NY Debut [ateixeira]
Apr 04, 2013 (6:40 am)
Better engineering saves weight. Other systems are more efficient. I bet ICE weighs less now than 10 years ago.
Speaking of backup cams, my new car has one, and I like it. I am a precise parker, and it lets me take advantage of that last inch.