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#16125 of 16309 Re: Are you the 2014 Corolla? [anythngbutgm]
Feb 06, 2013 (11:22 am)
So now we get the pointy saggy nose to replace the dangling dongle emblem. I christen thee "anteater" (or maybe aardvark). What does that white car have, 12 parking sensors?
I prefer the second car, that kinked c-pillar is trying too hard, ala Lexus.
#16126 of 16309 Re: Are you the 2014 Corolla? [ateixeira]
Feb 06, 2013 (11:30 am)
I'm pretty sure it is Australian, but I've seen similar photos from a sight claiming to be from india.
Here's a better shot in the wild (this one is a wagon too, future Matrix?)
#16127 of 16309 Re: Are you the 2014 Corolla? [anythngbutgm]
Feb 06, 2013 (11:38 am)
I think that's the Corolla Note, at least in some markets.
Would be good to replace the Matrix with that.
Feb 07, 2013 (8:42 am)
That chrome grille is just awful.
The black one with the body color grille is 100% better.
Interior is MUCH improved. The old one had all that cheap light gray plastic. I think they benchmarked Ford, that's what it looks like now (inside).
No powertrain changes = no significant gains in sales.
#16129 of 16309 Re: Tundra refresh [ateixeira]
Feb 07, 2013 (9:48 am)
I agree man, that grill is just terrible! but it sounds like it will be optional...
#16130 of 16309 Re: Tundra refresh [anythngbutgm]
Feb 07, 2013 (10:00 am)
I hate chrome, and pickups are the biggest offenders, but that one takes the crown.
#16131 of 16309 Re: Tundra refresh [ateixeira]
Feb 07, 2013 (10:33 am)
What disappoints me the most is there are no powertrain changes at all. It just seems like Toyota put 100% effort into the interior, which is nice and all but...
#16132 of 16309 Re: Tundra refresh [anythngbutgm]
Feb 07, 2013 (11:01 am)
Even kind of a Ford-y steering wheel.
That chrome grille surround is nothing short of atrocious.
#16133 of 16309 Re: Tundra refresh [fintail]
Feb 07, 2013 (11:55 am)
Kinda looks like the Prius steering wheel. Not sure who did that look first, to be honest.
I think the chrome grille functions in scaring away zombies.
Feb 07, 2013 (1:32 pm)
I have been mulling over this thing all afternoon and the various forums where it is being discussed. Not many people digging the changes, or lack thereof... Most of the criticism seems to lie with the snout but many also recognize the improved interior as well. I will say that I do like the updated body lines, there is a bit more agressiveness and edgieness to the profile. THose square wheel arches tho... Even the GM fans hate those on their camps trucks!
I just think the real sticking point and one that many "haters" (as they are called) are howling about is the lack of any powertrain improvements. I for one have experienced the I-force V8 and it is a monster of an engine, very smooth and rev happy, BUT (and a huge BUT) it is one of the thirstiest V8's in the segment as well...
And the way that Ford has been re-vamping their engine families and offering solid alternative choices like Eco-Boost for those not needing V8 power, it has to be disappointing that the same powertrain that showed up in 2006 will carry the top of the line Tundra for the next few years.
Heck, even Dodge with it's 8 speed trannies have helped raise their fleet averages. Plus they have at least brought something innovative to the market with those in bed cargo boxes and Independent suspension... And even GM, they also have a whole new line of engines coming for their trucks (which I think look more like refreshes than full re-designs, just like the Tundra...).
There is nothing at all that this new Tundra brings to the table IMO. A sad, sad, Pisspoor effort Toyota...
I almost wonder if they are waving the white flag here and will eventually abandon the segment... They did drop the Tundra based Sequoia after all...
It's a shame, there was a LOT of hype going around about how good this next Tundra was going to be.