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#16106 of 16309 Re: FYI for the import bashers.... [scwmcan]
Feb 01, 2013 (11:09 am)
I don't recall hearing it before ( please note doesn't mean I am right, but I just don't recall)
Back in the late 90s, all the Mazda 626 folks would complain about was the Ford CD4E transmission, sourced from the Contour.
Some of them didn't break. They ALL broke. Some twice (every 40-60k miles). It was a matter of time.
The recalled pedal assemblies were sourced from CTS. I'm sure they shipped them to Japan. I doubt the ES is all that different, at least that's what people keep saying.
#16107 of 16309 Re: FYI for the import bashers.... [anythngbutgm]
Feb 01, 2013 (11:14 am)
when it is a GM problem it is GMs fault
I don't feel that way, check the GM thread and you'll often find me defending them.
The statement above probably came when the Sonic was recalled for missing brake pads. The assemblies came from Korea, so .... should we blame the Korean supplier, then?
What's different in that case is that the brake assembly was installed in those Sonics yet the cars still passed inspection.
What kind of inspection allows a car to pass without brake pads?
Quality Control check in aisle 1!
That's quite a bit different than a CTS pedal assembly so well sealed up that NASA said it had to be careful cutting it open so as not to contaminate the inside.
#16110 of 16309 Re: The race is on for 2013 [anythngbutgm]
Feb 01, 2013 (11:55 am)
Nice to see the industry bouncing back.
#16111 of 16309 Re: FYI for the recall problems.... [imidazol97]
Feb 01, 2013 (12:03 pm)
There is indeed a pattern of delay
Let's see how GM did with a Toyota clone, then:
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/25/dont-forget-me-pontiac-vibe-also-included-in-- - toyota-recall/
GM doesn't yet know how many 2009 and 2010 model Vibes are included in the recall
So no Toyota badge, no idea that they were affected.
If Toyota was so slow, why didn't Pontiac catch the supposed defect sooner?
Remember, you can't blame NUMMI or the supplier, Pontiac is supposed to do their own quality control, they have to catch this stuff.
Yet...nothing. Wait for Toyota to tell them what to do.
#16112 of 16309 Re: The race is on for 2013 [ateixeira]
Feb 01, 2013 (12:43 pm)
Agreed. Looks like only Lincoln and Jeep are the ones in the negative for the month... (So far)
#16113 of 16309 Re: The race is on for 2013 [anythngbutgm]
Feb 01, 2013 (12:49 pm)
Jeep probably had a good month a year ago.
#16114 of 16309 Re: FYI for the recall problems.... [ateixeira]
Feb 01, 2013 (12:52 pm)
>Pontiac is supposed to do their own quality control,
Pontiac doesn't exist.