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#16091 of 16276 Re: 3,235 cars recalled [steve_]
Jan 30, 2013 (7:32 am)
From the article:
t's the fourth time since 2010 that Toyota has paid the maximum allowable fine for delaying recalls. In 2010, Toyota paid $48.8 million in civil penalties for failing to recall millions of vehicles, in three separate campaigns, in a timely manner. Toyota said it will restructure its organization to consolidate responsibility for quality assurance and review of safety-related issues in the United States. It did not admit any wrongdoing."
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130130/AUTO0104/301300365#ixzz2JTA0JPCh
Is it working?
#16092 of 16276 Re: 3,235 cars recalled [imidazol97]
Jan 30, 2013 (9:05 am)
using the same chip that was used in Chrysler Jeep Liberty SUVs that were under investigation
#16093 of 16276 FYI for the import bashers....
Jan 30, 2013 (9:12 am)
Kemet (an American company specializing in capacitor products) supplies the sub-capacitors to TRW Automotive (based in Michigan).
Funny how The Detroit News left that out. What happened to balanced reporting? Maybe because TRW is based in their home state?
CTS, Dana, Kemet/TRW...I see a pattern here.
#16095 of 16276 Re: Top Buzz Improver [ateixeira]
Jan 30, 2013 (2:50 pm)
All that measures is "buzz" from the past two weeks. It doesn't discern good or bad buzz - just buzz.
3 years ago BP probably had lots of "buzz".
#16096 of 16276 Re: Top Buzz Improver [robr2]
Jan 30, 2013 (2:57 pm)
No such thing as bad publicity? I dunno.
Look at sales, sure hasn't hurt 'em.
#16097 of 16276 Re: FYI for the import bashers.... [ateixeira]
Jan 30, 2013 (8:04 pm)
But they only produce the parts to toyota's specs, if they didn't meet Toyotas quality standars they they wouldn't use them, you can try to spin it all you want but ultimate responsibility still falls on Toyota just like it does with any other manufacturer ( and always seems to be the case with others, it seems that it is only when it is Toyota that the suppliers are blamed)
#16098 of 16276 Re: FYI for the recall problems.... [ateixeira]
Jan 31, 2013 (6:16 am)
From the linked article: "fourth time since 2010 that Toyota has paid the maximum allowable fine for delaying recalls."
>I see a pattern here.
There is indeed a pattern of delay.
The sourcing of the parts is also toyota's responsibility especially now that they're #1 again in sales. HP gets the responsibiity for the computer I have sitting that slowly flaked out--I finally determined it is the motherboard with a specific capacitor size on it that deteriorated and those need to be replaced.
#16099 of 16276 Re: FYI for the import bashers.... [scwmcan]
Jan 31, 2013 (7:52 am)
CTS' pedals were sealed. You can't inspect for tin whiskers if the part is sealed up. You have to trust the supplier.
The Dana frames weren't rusty when delivered. That took years. They paid Toyota millions because the frames did not meet specs.
This 3rd one was a supplier to a supplier, TRW probably should have done the testing if anything.
Remember, there was huge pressure to switch to domestic suppliers. Apparently that comes at a cost.
#16100 of 16276 Re: FYI for the recall problems.... [imidazol97]
Jan 31, 2013 (7:55 am)
How does their response to recalls compare to other similarly sized automakers?
Ford's still done little about SUA despite having twice as many complaints at Toyota did way back in November 2009, before the media hype.