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#16064 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [fintail]
Jan 10, 2013 (10:44 am)
Not just them - I've noticed green houses getting smaller and smaller with almost every new model. Gotta look "chopped" to be cool, I guess.
I find it annoying. What happened to actually being able to see out of a car?
No need, we'll just add extra cost bird's eye view to compensate for a designed-in visibility deficiency.
Having said that, the green house here looks airy and I like that about it. The rear door handle, door seam, and gas filler neck break up the sheet metal so it no longer looks chubby back there.
The lights are trying too hard, front and rear.
I'd say the same thing about a lot of cars. The new E AMG's face is also just too "busy":
There is a light within a light within a light, and the outer grille looks like a dog's cheeks blowing in the wind.
AMGs were subtle, what happened?
#16065 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [ateixeira]
Jan 10, 2013 (12:15 pm)
Looked chopped, but no shorter - just taller beltlines. Try driving a modern car with your elbow out the window. I suspect safety junk plays the bigger role. The cameras can fill 2 roles then - make up for visibility defects, and provide a little safety too.
I don't like the coupe grille on upright MB sedans with its lack of hood ornament, and those headlights are really busy. But, at least it isn't Predator's mouth
AMG hasn't been subtle for about a decade now. Money likes to be brash, and IIRC, AMG sells several hundred percent more cars than it did at the beginning of the century. M/RS/F aren't really subtle either. The overpaid middle aged wannabe racers and spoiled trust funders who buy them new want to be seen. Depreciation is still high, anyway.
#16067 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [ateixeira]
Jan 10, 2013 (12:45 pm)
I can rest my arm out the door of both of my cars, but in new cars I've experienced, it's a lot harder. Too bad. I bet it is really impossible in the IS, current and new.
CLS is appropriate for the coupe grille, and has cleaner lights. Maybe that will change though, as the design predates the new E by some time.
The suits might not care, but you have to see them on the streets, so you care
#16068 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [fintail]
Jan 10, 2013 (1:39 pm)
Let me know when they invent Juke-blocking goggles.
#16069 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [ateixeira]
Jan 10, 2013 (1:59 pm)
I don't mind the Juke so much, it exists to be weird and ugly, doesn't pretend to be elegant or cool. It's false pretenses that annoy me.
#16071 of 16309 Re: SportCross [ateixeira]
Jan 11, 2013 (8:06 am)
Could be a winner, esp if it dumps those goofy lights. I'd actually consider one, especially as it has little like it on the road. On another site, I saw a photoshop that made it look like a twin brother to the CT. I hope they use a different design language than the reverse angled C-pillar.
#16072 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [ateixeira]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Jan 11, 2013 (10:29 am)
Neither of us is the target market, so what matters are what existing and prospective Lexus buyers think.
On that note, if anyone lands here via a net search and has purchased an IS, let us know:
A reporter would like to speak to a woman who is a new Lexus IS owner. If you fit the description, please send your daytime contact to predmunds.com no later than 3 p.m. PT/6 p.m. ET, Friday, January 11, 2013.
#16073 of 16309 top 3 in reliability
Jan 13, 2013 (4:12 am)
Toyota took the top 3 spots in 3 different catagories in the year end Consumer Reports auto issue.
That includes Toyota, Scion, and Lexus. Some people may not like the way they look, but they still make the most solid cars.