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#16053 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [anythngbutgm]
Jan 09, 2013 (9:55 am)
Gorgeous from the waist up.
I do not like the lights, head or tail end.
Inside looks great.
#16054 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [anythngbutgm]
Jan 09, 2013 (10:30 am)
Horrendous face, hilarious taillights, side profile is decent, interior looks excellent.
#16055 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [fintail]
Jan 09, 2013 (4:18 pm)
I wonder how people who might actually buy one like it?
#16056 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [fintail]
Jan 09, 2013 (5:28 pm)
Lexus hires Honda stylists - just kidding!
#16057 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [ateixeira]
Jan 09, 2013 (7:04 pm)
Seeing as the people who buy it today often don't care about design or driving, does it really matter? Some will buy it no matter how it looks, just for the badge, same with all higher lines. Buying something and liking it doesn't really mean it is good design - and even you, the perpetual devil's advocate said the front and rear aren't so hot.
Hell, people buy ZDX, CrossCabrios, X6s and 5er GTs, etc.
#16058 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [berri]
Jan 09, 2013 (7:01 pm)
I think Lexus has channeled the spirit of Virgil Exner.
Acura has the beak, Lexus has the Predator maw/61 Plymouth grille. Something conservative like the new Accord is an exercise in elegance compared to either.
#16059 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [fintail]
Jan 10, 2013 (6:53 am)
That's it, you nailed it. I knew I'd seen that Lexus grille before, but couldn't remember where. The '61 Plymouth. We all know what a hit that was, but at least it was original.
#16060 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [fintail]
Jan 10, 2013 (8:28 am)
people buy ZDX
Very, very few.
Yet the X6 sells well. There's no accounting for bad taste.
The old IS had that bulky area under the C-pillar, pointy headlights, and sort of an anonymous look overall.
This is definitely bolder. At least people will react to it, good or bad, but they'll get off the fence. The interior is where the biggest improvements went. I think it'll sell pretty well.
To be honest I'm more interested to hear what power trains they'll stuff in it, especially the IS-F.
#16061 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [ateixeira]
Jan 10, 2013 (9:04 am)
I suppose a person spends more time looking at the inside of their car than the outside. Kind of like the GS, nice inside while a combination of bland, inoffensive, and weird outside. The 1961 Plymouth lineup was bold too - but it didn't have the reliability/masked badge snob ideal going for it.
I see the same bulk under the C-pillar in the new one - due to the upkick in the window/belt line that has become a Lexus theme - adds visual interest for some I guess. Actually now that I look at the details more, new IS has too many lines going upward at rear, trying to make it look jaunty I guess.
IS-F seems to sell about like the ZDX. Tough to compete with C63 and M3 in that niche.
#16062 of 16309 Re: Anyone catch this? [fintail]
Jan 10, 2013 (9:10 am)
The upkick is there but the sheetmetal below is doesn't look bulky like the old one did. It made the car look heavy and big, even though it was quite small.
Neither of us is the target market, so what matters are what existing and prospective Lexus buyers think. I bet 90% of the people who are critical are not shopping for a Lexus anyway.