Toyota on the mend?

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#15949 of 16274 Re: CR [steve_] by ateixeira

Oct 31, 2012 (11:49 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Oct 31, 2012 10:51 am)
People might like MyFord touch even though they have a lot to complain about.
 
Ford took risks, and I don't think they should be scolded for doing so. It's growing pains. They're the first to go mainstream with this type of interface. People are slow to learn and want buttons and knobs, but they'll get used to it eventually and Ford's numbers will creep back up.
 
Also, a revision came out this year and I bet not everyone has it yet.

#15950 of 16274 Re: CR [fintail] by ateixeira

Oct 31, 2012 (11:52 am)

Replying to: fintail (Oct 31, 2012 11:19 am)
Cabrio is a big change - you can get lots of body creaks and rattles, wind noise. Much harder to execute than a coupe.
 
Buffy's complaining about her hair being messed up.
 
Also, the spread is not all that wide for Mercedes. They actually got most cars near average.

#15951 of 16274 Re: CR [ateixeira] by fintail

Oct 31, 2012 (11:54 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 31, 2012 11:52 am)
I guess I would need to see the "problems". I'm also kind of surprised each model had enough volume to appear, as both are less than big sellers.
 
The MB average thing amused me too - right in the middle, and a small range. For a complex German car on a sometimes iffy ranking systrem, "average" is pretty good.

#15952 of 16274 Re: CR [fintail] by ateixeira

Oct 31, 2012 (11:57 am)

Replying to: fintail (Oct 31, 2012 11:54 am)
IIRC they look for sample sizes of 1000 of more.
 
They must have talked to every single G37c owner! LOL
 
Benz did well indeed. In the past they've had some truly awful scores for their trucks. I think the ML was worst in the survey at one point.

#15953 of 16274 Re: CR [ateixeira] by fintail

Oct 31, 2012 (12:00 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 31, 2012 11:57 am)
I wouldn't be surprised if G cabrio sales were indeed about that low.
 
I was expecting to see the ML as the worst. Maybe it was second. Oh well, at least the E ranks high, as it is such a volume seller, that bodes well.

#15954 of 16274 Re: CR [fintail] by ateixeira

Oct 31, 2012 (12:20 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Oct 31, 2012 12:00 pm)
ML had been improving steadily. Wonder if more diesels in the mix also boosted scores?

#15955 of 16274 Re: CR [ateixeira] by fintail

Oct 31, 2012 (2:39 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 31, 2012 12:20 pm)
Couldn't hurt - I don't understand who buys any MB SUV in gas form. Or maybe after 15 years of production, they are finally getting it right.

#15956 of 16274 Re: CR [fintail] by ateixeira

Nov 01, 2012 (6:48 am)

Replying to: fintail (Oct 31, 2012 2:39 pm)
Funny to see the divas pumping diesel in Potomac and slipping around. The gas stations at Westfield Shoppingtown Montgomery offers full service at no cost to address that issue.

#15957 of 16274 Re: CR [ateixeira] by fintail

Nov 01, 2012 (8:53 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 01, 2012 6:48 am)
In Europe/Germany, many stations provide gloves for diesel. Maybe that will become common if diesel catches on in NA. I can't imagine princess messing up her precious hands with that smelly fuel, indeed.

#15958 of 16274 Re: CR [fintail] by steve_ HOST

Nov 01, 2012 (9:13 am)

Replying to: fintail (Nov 01, 2012 8:53 am)
I saw that at some Boise stations a few years back. Lasted about a month. Could be some behind the counters if you ask but I doubt it.
 
Wait until it gets on their heels. Hubby will have to switch cars.
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