Toyota on the mend?

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#15496 of 16273 Re: Next IS [ateixeira] by fintail

Apr 25, 2012 (2:28 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 25, 2012 11:18 am)
Does it really not seem dated though? It's looking old to me, but maybe just because I know how old it is.
 
For 50, I can't imagine the possibilities. Maybe 30K for a show car (AMG SEC), 15K for a road car (W124 500E), 5K for a commuter (old diesel). Makes new cars look silly.
 
50K is a down payment on a condo in my area

#15497 of 16273 Re: Next IS [fintail] by ateixeira

Apr 26, 2012 (10:28 am)

Replying to: fintail (Apr 25, 2012 2:28 pm)
Maybe in Panama. They say it has the cost of living of the USA in the 1950s.

#15499 of 16273 April sales up 12% by ateixeira

May 01, 2012 (12:59 pm)

2nd month with double digit increases. Ford and GM were down, though the overall market was up 2%:
 
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/prnewswire/press_releases/California/201- 2/05/01/LA98291
 
Funny thing is, supply for some models is short:
 
http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2012/04/the-list-last-months-20-quickes- - t-selling-cars-.html#more
 
4 in the top 9 are Toyota/Lexus.
 
Prius, CT, Yaris, GS, and Highlander did well.
 
2011 was down 1.7% in part due to the tsunami, so this represents a real gain even over the 2010 figures.

#15500 of 16273 Prius #5 for April by anythngbutgm

May 02, 2012 (12:14 pm)


 
Beat out both the Civic and the Corolla.

#15501 of 16273 Re: Prius #5 for April [anythngbutgm] by ateixeira

May 02, 2012 (12:35 pm)

Replying to: anythngbutgm (May 02, 2012 12:14 pm)
I think they include Prius + Prius c + Prius V in that total.
 
Then again, Ford groups the F-150 with the massive diesel chassis cabs.

#15502 of 16273 fleets, ugh by nippononly

May 02, 2012 (9:21 pm)

15% of all Toyota sales were to fleets last month, a new high for Toyota, which they explain by saying(quoting Bob Carter) that they cancelled all fleet orders last year due to the tsunami so now they are catching up and will be through early May, during which period fleet sales will approach 20%.
 
Not good, but they say thay are targeting a fleet sales rate of 6% for the remainder of the year.
 
Funny thing is that many of the top-selling Toyota models (except Yaris) are mostly not sold to fleets. Personally, I think something is very wrong (with the Corolla) when Prius outsells Corolla.

#15503 of 16273 Re: fleets, ugh [nippononly] by mcdawgg

May 03, 2012 (4:58 am)

Replying to: nippononly (May 02, 2012 9:21 pm)
And Corolla outsold the Civic, so the Civic is even worse?
 
I see that Honda is spending more on rebates than Toyota, and Toyota's rebate spending is quite low.

#15504 of 16273 Re: fleets, ugh [nippononly] by ateixeira

May 03, 2012 (7:45 am)

Replying to: nippononly (May 02, 2012 9:21 pm)
Prius includes 3 models, though.
 
Remember gas hit $4.20 or so, at least around here.
 
Ironically it's down below $4, so demand should start to cool. Sales will still be strong because prices will come back down to earth. Go see in the CCB thread what a used Prius was selling for - crazy money.

#15505 of 16273 Legacy GT wagon DIT - 300hp + CVT by ateixeira

May 03, 2012 (7:49 am)

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ee9956a/22281#MSG22281
 
Why is this relevant?
 
Because it looks like they used the Toyota-influenced FA20 block for this, so it gets direct injection, twin scroll turbo, etc. They also engineered a CVT with 8 ratios for the paddle shifter in Sport # mode.
 
I think that stealthy non-Outback GT wagon looks great, personally.
 
Any how, it's likely the Scion FR-S will get some form of this new engine, though I'm not sure it it'll make the full 300hp.
 
Looks like Toyota is helping Subaru to meet CAFE standards. The current STI gets 17/23 on premium, not exactly a Prius.
 
I bet the new one jumps way up to 20/29 or so. In the video you see a Legacy GT wagon cruising around at under 1500rpm at times, so should yield good driving range.
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