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#5 of 7 Re: were is the battery? [buickboy92] by m4825 Nov 12, 2006 (11:03 am)
Replying to: buickboy92 (Nov 11, 2006 1:21 am) It is totally enclosed in a black plastic cover on the driver's side of the engine compartment near the fender well. There is a control module mounted on top of it for the ABS that is easily moved out of the way to access the battery.... hope this helps............... Replies to this message: buickboy92 (Nov 25, 2006 8:20 pm)
#6 of 7 Re: were is the battery? [m4825] by buickboy92 Nov 25, 2006 (8:20 pm)
Replying to: m4825 (Nov 12, 2006 11:03 am) thanks that did help!!! see ya.
#7 of 7 Ball Joint Problem - Forget Liberty by siberia Nov 26, 2006 (4:10 am)
I own a Liberty CRD. It is rock solid, tows our 5,000 lb trailer quite well and gets excellent fuel economy (28.7 mpg on recent 350 mile trip home).   However, the ball joints are installed upside down. Haven't you all been paying attention? There are already 2 ball joint recalls on some Libertys. The problem is two fold. The ball joints are undersized and they are inverted so that when the ball joint wears out the joint pops apart and the vehicle drops to the pavement. If you are going 75 mph when it happens - too bad!   Maybe this is a hangover from my aircraft maintenance days, but if the Liberty were an airplane all units would be grounded until they were either inspected or redesigned. So, take the Liberty off your list. Don't test drive one and don't ride in one unless it has recently had the ball joint recall done or it is new.   This is a monumental problem for the Liberty and any other vehicle out there that uses "tension" (inverted) ball joints to support the vehicle. This design must go away.   I recently went to a large used car lot and looked at a lot of front suspensions. I was shocked to see inverted ball joints on a number of vehicles and even some Toyota pickup trucks.   If any of the other vehicles in this comparison have tension ball joints get them off your list too. Learn how to recognize this design and get down on you hands and knees an look before you buy. Or, take the vehicle to a mechanic that can tell you whether the vehicle has tension or pressure ball joints.   At 28,000 miles one of my front lower ball joints on my Liberty was already out of specification - 1.5 mm is the limit. I can live with this because I can do my own inspections - probably at each oil change. Can you?

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