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SUVs Suzuki Grand Vitara/Vitara Suzuki Grand Vitara vs Toyota RAV4
42 messages, Last post on Sep 30, 2007 at 12:07 AM
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Why do so many GV owners have to validate their vehicle purchase decision by posting on a RAV4 board?  For me, the GV's underpowered V6 and fuel economy just don't cut it. You love the GV? Good for you! Now move on! You're not getting any admiration or buyer's remorse form THIS satisfied RAV4 owner. 
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Replying to: justfloorit (Jul 04, 2006 11:28 pm) 
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Replying to: campdrafty (Jul 05, 2006 2:35 am) Well the implication here is that if you bought a RAV you don't have a brain. I take ubbrage at that suggestion. I'm glad you like your GV and you're intitled to your opinion. My experience wasn't the same as yours. I found the GV's engine to be unrefined by comparison to the V6 RAV. Gas mileage was another consideration ... and then there is the resale value issue. So, as it turns out it is a "brainer" after all.
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Replying to: thecat (Jul 05, 2006 8:30 am) For me. That statement was made by me and applied to me only. That you took it as "ubbrage" (did you mean "umbrage"?) was your choice. As for resale - yes, the resale on the Rav should be worth more (then again, who knows how the new GVs will be on resale - should be interesting and hope it's more than past models) - but the thousands I saved on the purchase price of the GV (compared to what I would have paid for a Rav) may make up for it. Mileage is also a consideration, but from what I've read on various forums, including ravs, some people haven't been getting the mileage they should. Haven't tested the mileage on my new GV yet.
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Replying to: campdrafty (Jul 05, 2006 5:42 pm) |
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Replying to: justfloorit (Jul 04, 2006 11:28 pm)  ). Check the title again.  Steve, Host |
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Posts on the Rav4 vs GV topic on www.rav4world.com very well cover the reliabilty, resale value, quality and mileage issues. No need to repeat them, except to counter those who parrot the claims of Rav4 superiority. I think it's very fair to say, given my post above, and others, that the relative mileage advantage of the Rav4 is being seriously challenged. I'd also say that if the GV had more soundproofing, and softer suspension, it would seem just as "refined" as the Rav. It's very simple and cheap to achieve that impression. I thoroughly sound insulated an old cheap car, and afterward it seemed vastly more "refined". Suzuki should put out a version that matches the Rav4 for off-road incompetence and interior decibel levels, and get the mileage ratings corrected. Maybe then a few of those Rav4 buyers would be smart enough to pass on the Rav4's Toyota cachet, and pocket up to $10,000. I say all this without taking cabbage at anyone. |
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Is there some way to fix the Consumer Rating scores at the top of this topic to reflect the '06 GV and Rav4's? Instead of the '05 Rav4 and older GV's. I would imagine everyone's interested in the scores for the current models.
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Replying to: xostnot (Jul 06, 2006 7:15 pm) Steve, Host |
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Somewhere today, I saw rollover ratings for many 2006 vehicles. I think it was on the NHTSA site. The Rav4 did better than the GV by one or two percentage points. The cheering for the Rav4 should be muted by the fact that's not a big difference, and one would expect the GV to have done worse since it has a higher ride height. If this is the reason for the GV's marginally worse score, the extra clearance has not hurt the stability as much as one might expect. I went to the NHTSA's vehicle consumer complaints site and looked up the 2006 GV and the 2006 Rav4. You can do this yourself, here: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/complain/complaintsearch.cfm Yes, the Rav4 outsells the GV by 4 or 5-to-1, but the GV has been on the roads 4-6 months longer. The GV has three complaints, of which one is a duplicate, while the Rav4 has 10. Some of those ten are, frankly, frightening. Like the claims of uncontrolled acceleration. We won't know for sure for years which is designed and built better, but comparing the data collected so far on that site does not support claims of Rav4 superiority, at any price. |
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