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Subaru Impreza WRX STi, Infiniti G35, Coupe, Sedan
#27 of 72 Re: 2006 Subaru STI vs. 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe [rsholland]
Aug 15, 2006 (10:54 pm)
Indeed ... I think I just underestimated my threshold for the crudeness of the machine. Although like I said, if it weren't for the unanticipated issues (squeaks/rattles, fluctuating climate control, weak sound system, and my own difficulty with mastering this particular clutch), I'd probably be somewhat happier.
You're right, the Legacy GT (or even Mazdaspeed 6) would also be decent alternatives. I didn't seriously consider those largely because they are midsized cars, and after three years with the Maxima, I wanted the handling advantages of something smaller. But it's too bad that with most car manufacturers, size has to correlate with refinement. (Even with the luxury brands, where "smaller" equals "entry-level.")
Plus the Legacy has the same lame 120 watts of audio power the Impreza has. And with any of those vehicles -- the WRX, Legacy GT, or Mazdaspeed 6, I'd be dealing with a turbocharged 4. After the Maxima (and my surprisingly quick little Buick Skylark before it), I like the torquey but dignified urgency of a powerful V6. Probably the G35 Coupe would have made me the happiest of all those choices (although I know it's bigger than it looks).
Not that the STI is lacking for torque. And I'll admit, there's something fun about punching the throttle and feeling it pull harder and harder as the RPM's climb. Quite a different experience from naturally aspirated V6's with all their grunt in the low end.
Oh well ... for however many years I own it, I will enjoy it for what it is.
#28 of 72 Re: 2006 Subaru STI vs. 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe [nightvzn]
Aug 16, 2006 (5:38 am)
I recently drove a MazdaSpeed6 at a Mazda Zoom-Zoom LIVE! event. It's a fun car, but I did notice some turbo lag. Also, I don't like the on-demand Haldex AWD as much as the Subaru's fulltime AWD. My pick would be the Legacy GT, or Spec. B if you want max handling—and now the '07 model has a 6-speed tranny. Both have less turbo lag, a better AWD (IMO).
#29 of 72 Re: 2006 Subaru STI vs. 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe [rsholland]
Aug 16, 2006 (10:23 am)
I seem to recall at least one comparison review that put the Mazdaspeed 6 ahead of the Legacy GT and/or Spec. B (in fact, they all seem to say the Spec. B really isn't that different from the regular Legacy GT).
But as we know, one car magazine's opinion is not everybody's truth. If I took comparison reviews as gospel, I might have chosen the Evo over the STI (which I'm glad I didn't).
And unless anything bizarre happens it'll be at least a few years before I am car-shopping again, so who knows what will be on the market by that point. That's one nice thing about any technologically advanced toy -- you can usually count on it to get better over time.
I'm only afraid about styling at this point since a lot of the body styles now being released are making me nauseous...
#30 of 72 Re: 2006 Subaru STI vs. 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe [nightvzn]
Aug 16, 2006 (1:45 pm)
Just switching tires from the OEM ones on the STi can have a dramatic impact on ride comfort and noise levels. I found the OEM tires to be unbelievably harsh and noisy on the highway and switched to a set of Pirelli PZero Nero (M+S) tires that were a night and day difference. The Pirelli's traded a slight bit of the Potenza's turn-in response (which was razor sharp) for a huge gain in ride compliance and lower noise levels at all speeds. Luckily, there are a ton of people who love the OEM tires, so I had no trouble at all selling them online (for $100/ea) to partially offset the cost of the new Pirellis.
#31 of 72 Re: 2006 Subaru STI vs. 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe [bkaiser1]
Aug 16, 2006 (3:22 pm)
Interesting idea. I'll probably keep these tires until they wear out, but I've wondered about what I'll do at that point. Maybe even something sacrilegious like put all-season tires on. Or maybe a happy medium with some slightly less extreme summer tires, as you say.
It's really hard to find tire reviews in the magazines. The one time I did find a review made it abundantly clear why they're uncommon: it's a royal pain for the magazine to swap tires off a few tester cars over and over and over again.
Anybody know any good sites/publications for tire reviews?
#32 of 72 Re: 2006 Subaru STI vs. 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe [nightvzn]
Aug 18, 2006 (2:11 pm)
I'm sort of having the opposite problem. I got a new G35 sedan earlier this year. After 6 months of ownership, I am starting to wish I had gotten something else with a bit more edge, like a Legacy GT. The G35 is nice and refined, with advanced eletronics. But somehow I can't get excited looking at it or driving it. While the engine has good power in the mid range, I'm not impressed with the low end torque, especially when the A/C is on. The handling is too soft (non-sport), and the auto tranny does slow shifts. On top of that, the gas mileage is terrible. I test drove a Legacy GT last year, and the pull of the turbo felt great.
#33 of 72 Re: 2006 Subaru STI vs. 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe [jccai1]
Aug 18, 2006 (3:54 pm)
Interesting. I wonder how much difference the manual transmission/sport suspension would make in your case. Given that the G35 has a bigger (and much more powerful) version of the same engine my Maxima had, I'd expect it to feel a lot faster.
Actually the G35 I test drove felt pretty damn quick and light on its feet. But it was the coupe, which is pretty different from the sedan. And it had the manual and sport suspension.
I'd probably be happy with the power/handling of the WRX or Impreza GT, but it appears all Subarus (downhill of the Tribeca at least) share the same auto climate control system -- a very irritating one if mine is, in fact, working properly. The compressor turns on and off repeatedly, creating an uncomfortably large range of temperature variation.
And Subaru doesn't seem to offer any decently powerful sound systems on any of their cars. Not a problem for those who love to trick out their cars with aftermarket systems or don't listen to much music, but I can't stand aftermarket, and I need a powerful sound system in my car. I'm just not happy without it.
#34 of 72 Re: 2006 Subaru STI vs. 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe [nightvzn]
Aug 21, 2006 (10:45 am)
IIRC C&D picked the Speed6, while R&T picked the spec.B.
I was with Bob at Zoom Zoom Live and the Speed6 was nice, but there was more turbo lag than I remember with the Legacy GT manual.
I'd be happy with either one, though.
#35 of 72 Re: 2006 Subaru STI vs. 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe [ateixeira]
Aug 21, 2006 (11:28 am)
Yeah, ultimately with closely matched competitors like this, the end user is unlikely to be disappointed with either...
So probably it comes down to whether you like the "day-to-day" things about the car. I suppose we don't need race-car capability on the street.
Speaking of which, I dropped off my STI today to get some of those issues looked at, and the loaner they gave me is an Outback wagon. Only 175 hp, but I'm actually enjoying the auto tranny and the comfortable ride (plus for some reason the sound system seems better than mine, even though it's supposed to be the same power). My goodness, I must be losing my edge!
#36 of 72 Re: 2006 Subaru STI vs. 2006 Infiniti G35 coupe [nightvzn]
Aug 21, 2006 (11:42 am)
For someone like me, who has a family plus a commute to pot-hole central (DC), I could never get away with a car like that. It rides too stiffly for my daily commute, and isn't big enough to be my family car.
Solution - get 3 cars!
I commute in a Miata and use a Forester as a family car.