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#51 of 94 Re: Good deal...but maybe not... [pjc1]
Mar 01, 2007 (9:36 am)
That is quite an opinion you have there. The TLC is a very heavily loaded SUV and in the side by side comparisons with the it has more features/capacity than the Commander. The internal capacity alone dwarfs the Commander. I think the Commander has a place in the panapoly of SUV's, but it is no replacement for the TLC based on the comparisons. It does have a cleaner burning engine and it does cost less; however, Jeep also has one of the worst reliability records in the industry. Still in all, if you like it then I hope it proves to be an excellent vehicle and that Chrysler builds on a promising beginning.
Mar 01, 2007 (9:37 am)
..enough about Jeeps...
#53 of 94 Re: Good deal...but maybe not... [hypnosis44]
Mar 01, 2007 (12:45 pm)
If you sense opinion then I apologize that opinion has been inserted. Having said this allow me to count the ways this $63K list SUV is lacking in "luxury" features that I see on other vehicles in the same class (even excluding the Jeep Commander).....observation only, no opinion.....
No memory seat (either side)
No power fold in mirrors (this is a large vehicle)
No ability to control all interior lighting by driver
No rain sensing or mist feature to wipers
No heated seat back/lumbar
No heat vent in third row seats
No heated rear seats
No ability to control rear temperature by driver
No courtesy floor lighting (in fact general interior lighting is poor, sorry for the opinion here)
No self leveling head lights (no biggie)
No outside rear view mirrow dimming feature
If you do not consider these shortcomings for $63K list vehicle that is OK too.
#54 of 94 Re: Good deal...but maybe not... [pjc1]
Mar 01, 2007 (1:11 pm)
First, I agree with the host's statement above.
Second, the statement about being "blinded by the aura and history of the car..." suggests that more deliberation and time testing the car may have been of benefit. The aura and history of this vehicle is all about ruggedness and reliability, not creature comforts and gadgets, although it certainly has a generous share of those things. This is a vehicle designed to crawl out of the mud, not prance around Palm Beach. Understanding its DNA should be enlightening, not blinding. I think most people on this forum are here because we value and like these vehicles.
Finally, it sounds like you are looking for something different from what this vehicle offers. I was once in the same situation and know exactly how you feel. It's awful! You got this car at a great price. I would strongly urge you to consider what car you would be happy with and trade or sell the TLC for that one...ASAP. Life is too short to be this displeased with the car in your garage. When I traded my car for the one I really wanted my depression and remorse --related to cars anyway--disappeared and hasn't returned.
(Ironically, that was when I traded for a TLC).
Good luck, I sincerely hope you can soon have a car you like and spend time on another forum singing its praises.
#55 of 94 Re: Good deal...but maybe not... [vavavavolvo]
Mar 01, 2007 (2:04 pm)
Agreed that more time would have been of benefit...also full disclosure and a comprehensive explanation by the dealer and a brochure would have been nice too, but in the final analysis it is my responsibility to ensure that the goods are as promised and delivered...apparently in this discipline I performed poorly.
It may sound like I was looking for something different but I don't believe that to be the case...or perhaps I am just too idealistic to believe that $63K can buy you more than ruggedness and reliability...and likewise in the discipline of expectation of comprehensive value I performed poorly.
Lastly, your thinly veiled suggestion to me to get off the forum because other people on this forum value and like these vehicles is understood and accepted. I would not want to say anything to offend anyone.
#56 of 94 Re: Good deal...but maybe not... [vavavavolvo]
Mar 02, 2007 (7:30 pm)
Well said everyone on the TLC...i own a 2006 TLC and believe me....if you need anything more than this vehicle has to offer...you are gonna have to purchase a military stealth fighter plane !!!
Mine: Fully loaded with all options included !!!
WORTH EVERY PENNY...
#57 of 94 Re: Good deal...but maybe not... [mdsd]
Mar 03, 2007 (12:43 am)
My sons and I have 4 tlc. Cant wait for the 2008. Break in milage around 100,000 only competes in endurance with the everready bunny, they keep going and going. Gave up on other cars 20 years ago.
#58 of 94 Re: Good deal...but maybe not... [mdsd]
Mar 05, 2007 (3:21 pm)
Fair enough... I guess that is what makes the world a wonderful place....what one sees as great value another finds merely adequate.
#59 of 94 1994 land cruiser
Mar 09, 2007 (4:02 pm)
I bought a 1994 LC 174,995 on it. (Paid 6,200.00). We bought for our son, but guess who drives it and took it over, me. Parked my 2006 honda ridgeline and got my son the small vw turbo thing he wanted. I'm a 42 year old woman that just loves her new rig! Wow I'll never buy new again and I'm already looking for a newer LC to replace my ridgeline!
#60 of 94 Buying 2003 TLC
Apr 19, 2007 (8:19 pm)
I'm considering a used TLC. Loaded 2003 (Nav, rear DVD) with 87,000 miles. Mint condition (although some of the Nav failure stories scare me). Asking $29,877. Seems a bit high...any thoughts?